There’s been lots of misleading headlines on this, but this is the first time they didn’t at least include the full quote in the article…
“We’ll continue to provide military assistance to Israel until they get rid of Hamas, but we have to be careful – they have to be careful,” Biden said. “The whole world’s public opinion can shift overnight, we can’t let that happen.”
He’s not criticizing Netanyahu, and he’s still saying he’ll support him no matter what.
But for literal decades now Biden has been saying that to Israels government, and they’ve literally never listened, and Biden has never stopped supporting them.
Why the fuck are people acting like either is going to suddenly happen now?
I find this so infuriating. How do they think this strategy gets rid of Hamas? Israel indiscriminately bombing Palestine is the best recruitment tool Hamas ever had. Why do world leaders with the best advisors money can pay espouse such nonsense. Is there anyone who seriously believes this?
They don’t believe it. It’s just a talking point to cover for genocide. Nettanyahu, like all the right-wing authoritarian fucksticks before him, is about as attached to his excuses as the Navajo nation is to water polo (spoiler: they’re not). It’s just some bullshit to spout while you fucking murder people. If the excuse runs thin, fuck it, just make a new excuse, but this is the one they’ve spent decades cultivating by literally funding hamas.
Nettanyahu doesn’t believe it, but Biden does.
Liberals are famously incapable of not understanding reality, just in a different way than straight up psychotic conservatives: Enlightened centrism.
Biden is a liberal Democrat, and quite literally believes things like the rule of law is unavoidable and will magically hold Trump to account regardless of what he or his AG do. They always think diplomacy with psychotic dictators will work. They never, ever understand that horrible people can wear a suit and are willing to do horrible things, too.
The only way this strategy works is if at the end there is no one left to seek revenge. I’m sure there’s a word for it.
Supporting Israel is not the same as supporting Netanyahu.
Biden and Netanyahu have a decades-long relationship that has at times been strained. At the Monday evening reception, Biden said he once gifted Netanyahu a photo and wrote at the top: “I love you but I don’t agree with a damn thing you had to say.”
“It’s about the same today,” Biden said, adding he’d “had my differences with some Israeli leadership.”
Sounds like he’s criticizing Netanyahu.
It sounds like he loves Netanyahu
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We voted against trump and so people want to defend their choice.
The problem is there is no defense for his actions.
This is like 3 weeks over due. Cmon man
Appreciate progress when it happens, even if it’s late.
So…
You haven’t seen any of the posts with his full quote where he doubles down on the US supporting them anyways?
He’s not mad at the genocide. He’s mad Israel isnt hiding it well.
He’s been saying this to Israel for about 50 years now. They’ve never listened to him. And he’s never stopped supporting them.
People need to stop giving credit for shit he’s not doing
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Dude is 80 years old. He gets there when he gets there.
He’s not there, he’s just telling Bibi to get better PR guys.
While I 100% agree with you, we don’t know the full story of what has happened behind closed doors. I’m hopeful that this is not the first time he has warned Israel that they’re being giant douches and the world is starting to hate you.
He is still fucking supporting them, though!
Yeah, but they’re also our ally. I don’t know why this alliance is so important, but maintaining alliances seems to be important for heads of state.
I don’t personally think it’s a good reason, but there’s a lot of unknown rationale we aren’t privy to.
“Keep indiscriminately killing children and families 3 or 400 more times and we may not support you anymore!”
Didnt the US just veto a cease fire agreement? How can the us president critisize indiscriminate bombing but veto an attempt to stop it?
Probably cause he wants to please the republicans by helping Israel and also please the dems by telling the IDF to at least try and limit the civilian casualties. He really should just pick a lane here.
Lmao the cope. Biden is not trying to please any Republicans. Biden is 100% owned by AIPAC. He has for the last 50 years unconditionally supported israel no matter how bad their crimes. Genocide Joe is a foreign agent.
A vote for Biden is a vote for israel.
How can the us president critisize indiscriminate bombing but veto an attempt to stop it?
Easy. Biden is simply posturing for purposes of damage control - the massive failure of the pro-Israeli propaganda machine has taken the US political establishment by complete surprise (it is probably also calculated to “distance” Biden from the predictable batshit pro-Israeli posturing GOP candidates are going to be oozing next year).
massive failure of the pro-Israeli propaganda machine has taken the US political establishment by complete surprise
Can you elaborate more on this?
Israel used to have good propaganda to justify their war crimes. Recently they have dropped all pretense and now they just go
“Yeah we want to genocide all Palestinians and steal their land, and America will support us no matter what”.
They’re saying the quiet part out loud.
Also all the IDF propaganda such as the 40 beheaded babies and the hospital base instantly being debunked has started to show just how much israel is lying to justify their colonialism.
Oh… it’s just this.
Nearly 40 years of uncountable amounts of treasure spent peddling Israel to the world and specifically the US - and it’s coming to an end.
Biden basically said “I will always support israel no matter how much genocide they do, but the Europeans are starting to stop their support and the rest of the world hates israel with a passion now”
Except the bombing isn’t indiscriminate. The IDF/war cabinet have a pretty good idea how many civilians they’ll have to murder* in order to kill Hamas members hiding amongst the populace.
They’re leveraging AI to build ‘target packages’ using data from extensive drone and/or satellite footage. Locate a militant, track their movements, and the AI can roll back the footage and count how many people entered and left the building beforehand.
Targeted killings like we saw in Jenin during this summer/fall are ethically and legally tenuous, but at least a hit squad doesn’t level entire buildings…
*Yes, murder. If you know with strong confidence that your actions will kill someone/several someone’s, and do it anyway? That’s no longer ‘the fog of war caused an error’ it’s very deliberate act of violence aimed at the populace
“Just because we keep sending you bombs, doesn’t mean you have to use them all!”
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And who is enabling that indiscriminate bombing, Joey boy?
Not worried about killing kids just worried how it will make him look.
It’s the neoliberal way.
A few hundred dead Palestinian kids isn’t going to worry a wealthy neoliberal. Not their kids, not their country.
But “bombing targets going unbombed” fundamentally means “profits going unprofited” and that’s an idea that brings a neoliberal out in a cold sweat.
Ultimately, Biden’s statement is just his part in the pantomime. He’s doing the “left-wing neoliberal” thing where he does exactly the same horrific shit as the right-wing neoliberals, but he frowns while he does it.
If he doesn’t frown hard enough, he might lose the election, but it’s not going to stop the children being blown up or the neoliberals profiting from it.
I’m so tired, so very tired of the theater of American politics using human lives as sacrificial pawns, all so that the song and dance can continue for time immortal. There’s no end in sight, is there?
2 months ago they cut off electricity, gas, food and water and now they lose support?
So does he agree it is “indiscriminate bombing”? Because I think there is another words for it called “war crime”!
What about the shelling with White Phosphorus? Want to say anything about that?
Surely a sharp finger-wagging will get them to stop
Bibi stepped in it by announcing that he out and out rejected the US proposal. Bibi also has no fan club among most American Jews.
