Wi-Fi 7 to get the final seal of approval early next year, new standard is up to 4.8 times faster than Wi-Fi 6::There are a lot of ‘draft’ Wi-Fi 7 devices around, but ‘Wi-Fi 7 Certified’ devices will only come to market sometime next year.
How am I supposed to keep track without the two letter suffix that’s non sequential?
Look at mister fancy pants over here with 2 letters while the rest of us are using the totally understandable “b” or “g” or “n.”
AX gang all day, baybee.
802.11b will always be my favorite. Brings me back to a simpler time.
I like the 802.11 scheme. :(
I’m only mad that they changed it because I put the effort in to learn the 802.11 standard.
Now do Ipv4 vs IPv6. Everything you learned is worthless.
POPQUIZ: THE 802 standard for VLANs
Times ticking…Nope. Was wrong. No idea without looking it up.
.1Q because Q has a tag on it
Whoever is behind USB version naming schemes, please take notice.
they have? And both wifi and UsB is still a mess to understand under the name.
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Well, then they have to rush out to buy a new, fancy router for the basement to support their newest thing. And round and round we go…
Well all they need is a router that supports that standard and devices that support that standard. However, I don’t know if the devices have that standard yet, but, when they do, it should be useable.
I just upgraded to a WiFi 6E router. Both my phone and my laptop support 6E.
Speeds are great, until you leave the living room (where the router is). Go up to my bedroom, and 6E won’t even connect. So it’s fast, but 6Hz has trouble going through walls.
Most of the other devices in the house are on 5GHz and that’s still super fast and able to reach basically everywhere.
the difference between 5Ghz (5150-5895) and 6Ghz (5925-7125) is not really sufficient to blame for most home uses. It’s expected as a rule to lose about 10-20% more power than 5Ghz through walls (where 5Ghz lost 100% more power than 2.4 Ghz does). It’s much more likely that your new WAP just does less power or worse antenna than the old one did.
Whats a wired access point called?
A switch?
Wireless defines how you access the point… Not that the access point itself is wireless.
A switch is technically a “standard” access point (or just ports in the wall connected back to the switch).
We use “Wireless” access point to denote access to the network without physical connections.
WAPs can connect to the network via wired or wireless means. Where most people will reference “WAP” as a wired (wired uplink) connected wireless access point… and Mesh (Wireless uplink) WAPs as wireless connected wireless access points.
Almost certainly because your router isn’t broadcasting at full power (30dbm or 1w).
Damn, I don’t think I even have WiFi 6 yet, haha. I’ve just not had any need for faster speeds.
I’m sure something will come along that’ll make use of it though!
This is primarily meant to replace wired local data transfer solutions like thunderbolt. Example, sending video data from a camera to an editing workstation.
The transfer speed of WiFi 7 is just over Thunderbolt 3.
The transfer speed of WiFi 7 is just over Thunderbolt 3.
This is so wrong that it’s absurd it’s been here for 3 hours and nobody has called it out. The claim is “more than 40Gbps” (I believe 46Gbps is the number floating around) for wifi7. This will likely require 8x8 at 320MHz or even possibly 16x16 ( I don’t remember if this was floated as an idea or not) which would require more or less the entire frequency range. Fine… But that’s 46Gbps aggregate, meaning for up and down speeds. The split would then be 23/23 gbps, this is paper best case.
The reality is that you’re going to lose about 50% of that off the top because wireless always does. So 12/12 if you’re lucky.
What speeds does Thunderbolt 3 support? 40/40… 80gbps aggregate on paper. 22/22 in practice for a data-only channel (other modes can still access 40/22 quite readily). It’s not even close.
Woah. I assume Thunderbolt will still have latency benefits. For example, we’re not going to have wireless eGPUs, surely? I hope I’m wrong, because wireless PCIe lanes would be amazing.
Cpus won’t be able to handle the interrupts from speeds that high.
Wait till you’re streaming 8k video in each eye of your VR headsets. And, the whole family is watching in their headsets. You’ll need it some day.
That’s why I’m dropping fiber in my house when I do my ethernet drops. Might as well pull 2 wires and future-proof it.
40Gb fiber and CAT6e?
Nice.
It’s even better, because I forgot that our neighborhood was getting FTTH until they started on my street this morning.
8k Video in each eye.
Not even 5 minutes in - your internet throttles back to 56kbps because you hit the data cap.
Maybe I will finally be able to afford a WiFi 6E router now.
Exactly my thought. I need another omada ap and the 6e stuff is overpriced
“Wi-Fi 7 supports superior connectivity for emerging use cases with high levels of interactivity and immersion,”
How far can I be from the access point and how many walls can there be in between? WiFi at home is already pretty bad just two rooms over from the router.
It’s really just the nature of the beast. For higher throughput you need higher frequency. Higher frequency means less pentatration
At some point we’ll have 1TB/s but it will require the devices to be kissing each other.
(Or we just move to light - LiFi)
Lifi is honestly probably the best direction
Hue
Meanwhile today I get an ad from eero for a WiFi 7 router system that costs $1699
What do I need a wireless connection many times faster than my internet for? Streaming game rendering to future VR goggles?
Most people don’t, and that’s OK. You’ll just upgrade whenever your current equipment breaks down.
But businesses will be a large market share for increased speeds.
me over hear with my gigabit-ethernet plugs in every wall as if they were as important as electricity… upgrade those suckers to 10-gig-ethernet, and wifi-has nothing over other than mobility… mobility until you leave the room… sounds about like being on a wire.
wireless needs a better understanding, and for most that have no understanding they just see faster as better, when no wireless is better than a wired connect, that is why the cellar towers, fiber connection, and even coax-connections all are needed to “power the wireless”.
i’m shocked at how many new or remodeled homes have no “ethernet port” but yet they will have power plugs-n-mass every where in the house, electricity for everything, and then they plugin 5Ghz repeaters into all the wall sockets so that they get decent room to room speeds.
You have a point about how silly it is to scrimp on ethernet ports in new construction/remodels–wifi with a wired backhaul is unquestionably preferable to pure mesh.
But to say “wifi has nothing other than mobility” is purely asinine. It’s like saying that planes offer nothing over cars except the ability to travel faster–yeah… that’s kinda the point! Compared to the number of networked devices in the average home, there are very few current or near-future devices that could leverage even a gigabit connection fully, let alone justify a dedicated wired connection.
Streaming video needs a few 10s of Mbits tops, security cams are similar, streaming audio needs a fraction of that, your smart home devices & hubs are negligible, mobile phones and tablets downloading 100MB apps barely even blink at current wifi speeds. Even the average WFH-er is going to saturate their company’s VPN before their wifi connection struggle.
Is an ethernet connection technically better in some of those cases? Sure, but the vast majority of people would notice no functional difference aside from having to plug in a second cable.
Weird flex but ok
So this will just be like a firmware patch or something for my new wifi 6 routers I’m guessing right?
It’s an entirely new standard, so no, it won’t just be a firmware patch.
Wifi 6 has become pretty affordable but the high speed 6E is still super expensive.
Is 7 an innovation or just more antennas and processing power usage?
Yeah, I’ll be waiting for some coverage to see how it actually is.
Will I be able to use it in another room? Because wow wifi 5 was awful, and 6 isn’t that much better.
Generally as wireless tech gets faster, it’s less able to travel distances or penetrate stuff
That’s the most frustrating thing. I have 3 mesh waps in my house, but if you connect in a different room you get 2.4ghz. At this point I need a mesh wap in every room.
As the wavelengths get shorter, so too does my patience :/
Hardwire them if possible. Mesh isn’t great, way too much Wireless traffic that’s disturbing each other.
Compared to ethernet, WiFi isn’t duplex.
That really depends on the router you have, my wifi 6 works in all rooms
Early adoption might be expensive.
I’ll wait as I put in WiFi 6E last year. I get 500-800mbps. I positioned 3 units through out. My laptops support WiFi 6 and 6E. So…no reason to upgrade since they cannot hit the higher speeds without direct line or adapter.
Even Wifi 6E devices are way too expensive still, especially considering how poor 6GHz range is without a mesh system. I just upgraded to a new router since my old one would bottleneck my internet connection on wired, not because I needed faster wifi speeds.
Do I have to have played Wi-Fi 1 though 6 in order to understand 7?
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In theory, this should be like having wireless Thunderbolt. Hopefully cameras are quick to adopt this. This would be super handy for sending 8K video to a workstation.
I’m still on Wi-Fi 4.
