I have almost given up commenting at all. But I use YouTube and watch videos, read comments, and often want to say something. We should be able to. Hopefully someone knows the answer. I already saw a recommendation from someone on Reddit to use certain alternate characters but they didn’t specify what and they still aren’t working for me so I’m looking for a specific text format that remains undeleted.
You are looking for suggestions on how to say things while bypassing filters, but not telling us what things are are trying to say. Does that seem logical?
It seems completely logical to me. I’m looking for a solution to the issue. Trying to ascertain the exact content being removed is irrelevant to solving the issue.
Well that example actually makes sense. It demonstrates that you don’t necessarily need to know the specifics in order to help, you just want to know because you’re apprehensive. What the commenter you were replying to was saying was a completely disingenuous comparison.
So let’s take that example (and of course wanting to be able to comment completely normal things without them being deleted is not as extreme as trying to pick a lock, but close enough).
What if the person wasn’t able to share exactly why they needed to pick a lock, but they gave you some information pointing to what it was, and asked you to trust that their intentions were pure and they weren’t doing anything wrong?
Would you still refuse to help them?
Obviously this is a hypothetical, and I gave given multiple examples already of the types of harmless comments that get deleted, but people still refuse to even consider the possibility of helping me.
Inb4 downvotes, because that’s how this is going, downvote me for no reason without explaining why, or for reasons that make no sense.
I’d be pretty suspicious why they wouldn’t tell me the reason, actually, and an internet stranger asking me to trust that their intentions are pure isn’t very persuasive. You don’t seem like someone who would be outright abusive, though, and you have a fairly innocuous history on Lemmy from what I can see. I think one problem is that we don’t really know the answer to the question. Most people here would just not comment or stop going to YouTube rather than try to come up with some sneaky way to m4k3 comm!ent5 th4.t ev4d3 f.i.l t3r5.
Actually, I used to subscribe to r/lockpicking, and there were VERY strict rules about posting questions about a lock that was closed.
I thought it was neat that I was able to pick my desk drawer at work with a paperclip, but my pic immediately got deleted because even though it was my desk, it “wasn’t my lock to pick”.
So, the reality of your hypothetical situation is no, people should not and will not help you cheat the system, because we have no idea who you are or what you want to accomplish.
I can’t believe you would ask them about their car like that, truly way over the line and you must be a terrible person, just because it’s absolutely essential information gives you no right to go prying in their business like this, etc etc etc
I’m pretty sure people are focused on what the content is because they have reservations about helping someone bypass filters to post stuff that may be offensive enough to be deleted in the first place.
Nothing I’m saying is offensive, and trust me, a lot of completely unoffensive and harmless comments are blocked, while very offensive content is allowed. It often makes no sense either, and I think the bots are literally broken. A quick Google search about this issue shows some people wanting to post admittedly offensive things, but other people who were trying to make completely innocuous comments and still having them get removed. And it’s really varied and inconsistent what gets deleted. I’m in the latter camp.
Not many possibilities, are there? People substitute letters with number or punctuation that look like the letters, use various homophones, or split up words with punctuation. Maybe you could try translating your comments to Greek or Romanian.
These are creative solutions. I really appreciate you trying to answer when no one else would. But I’m probably not going to change each letter or word individually for everything I say (or translate to another language, which means most people can’t understand it) when I don’t even know what things are going to be removed for seemingly no reason. What I do currently is similar, if I notice that my comment has been removed, I usually try to rephrase it, split it up, and post it in different ways through trial and error.
Sometimes I’ve noticed if my comment is simply longer than a few sentences (or a small invisible character limit, seemingly), it gets deleted. So truncating what I’m saying can work.
But all of this is very difficult to do and never works consistently. I still get random comments deleted all the time.
The desire for a text character format that doesn’t get removed by default is this: I would be able to type normally without having to worry about deletion. I would not say anything bad, because I don’t already. It would just mean that this faulty comment deletion would no longer prevent me from using the comments section.
I said what the problem is. Comments are getting deleted. And I’m specifically asking if anyone knows a character format that doesn’t get removed. You don’t need to know what content is being removed in order to suggest a character format. I don’t know why you’re not understanding this.
Good point. I guess it was worth a try. Someone might know. There were people on some Reddit posts who knew (but didn’t specify an exact format that worked, and the ones I tried I was still having the same problems with). I guess I could try asking on the YouTube community (if there is one), but judging by the toxic replies and hostility in this thread, that could be a shitshow.
I watch a ton of youtbe but I am there for the videos and that is it. I understand that you want something different but if you need to jump through this sort of bullshit to keep commenting, i just do not see what the attraction is.
I’m neither of those things and I’m not doing anything wrong. It speaks volumes that no one is able to focus on the actual question and instead chooses to obsess over what content is being removed.
Can you just imagine a hypothetical, which I assert is actually the case, where I’m trying to say something that you yourself would likely agree is completely reasonable; and yet it’s being deleted. Say that happens so frequently to the point that you have 2 options, to either stop commenting even though you want to be able to, or seek alternative characters that don’t get deleted.
In that situation, seeking alternative characters that don’t get removed is a reasonable solution.
If you don’t have an answer to the question, that’s fine. But I’m not interested in your assumptions about what you imagine I’m trying to comment. It’s all in your head.
Well gee, thanks. I mean you literally know nothing about me except that I’m experiencing a weird technical issue on YouTube where a lot of comments I make get deleted when they’re completely harmless. I would never say something as mean as what you just said for example. I don’t assume bad things about other people. And I don’t say anything problematic. I have solid ethics and I don’t even say anything controversial on YouTube. I’m only saying this to defend myself against accusations and negative assumptions. No one believes me. What if no one believes you? I would believe you. One day, you might be in a similar situation. If I’m there, I’ll believe you. Sorry it’s been a long day.
You’re not experiencing a technical issue, you’ve been deemed not worth listening to by whoever has that power. It sucks, but that’s the price of being an asshole - and I say this as a fellow asshole.
I have almost given up commenting at all. But I use YouTube and watch videos, read comments, and often want to say something. We should be able to. Hopefully someone knows the answer. I already saw a recommendation from someone on Reddit to use certain alternate characters but they didn’t specify what and they still aren’t working for me so I’m looking for a specific text format that remains undeleted.
You are looking for suggestions on how to say things while bypassing filters, but not telling us what things are are trying to say. Does that seem logical?
It seems completely logical to me. I’m looking for a solution to the issue. Trying to ascertain the exact content being removed is irrelevant to solving the issue.
What problem is it having?
Or like
“Does anyone know how to silently pick deadbolts?”
“Uh, why do you need to do that? Is it your house?”
“Look, I just need to know how to do it.”
Well that example actually makes sense. It demonstrates that you don’t necessarily need to know the specifics in order to help, you just want to know because you’re apprehensive. What the commenter you were replying to was saying was a completely disingenuous comparison.
So let’s take that example (and of course wanting to be able to comment completely normal things without them being deleted is not as extreme as trying to pick a lock, but close enough).
What if the person wasn’t able to share exactly why they needed to pick a lock, but they gave you some information pointing to what it was, and asked you to trust that their intentions were pure and they weren’t doing anything wrong?
Would you still refuse to help them?
Obviously this is a hypothetical, and I gave given multiple examples already of the types of harmless comments that get deleted, but people still refuse to even consider the possibility of helping me.
Inb4 downvotes, because that’s how this is going, downvote me for no reason without explaining why, or for reasons that make no sense.
I’d be pretty suspicious why they wouldn’t tell me the reason, actually, and an internet stranger asking me to trust that their intentions are pure isn’t very persuasive. You don’t seem like someone who would be outright abusive, though, and you have a fairly innocuous history on Lemmy from what I can see. I think one problem is that we don’t really know the answer to the question. Most people here would just not comment or stop going to YouTube rather than try to come up with some sneaky way to m4k3 comm!ent5 th4.t ev4d3 f.i.l t3r5.
Actually, I used to subscribe to r/lockpicking, and there were VERY strict rules about posting questions about a lock that was closed.
I thought it was neat that I was able to pick my desk drawer at work with a paperclip, but my pic immediately got deleted because even though it was my desk, it “wasn’t my lock to pick”.
So, the reality of your hypothetical situation is no, people should not and will not help you cheat the system, because we have no idea who you are or what you want to accomplish.
I can’t believe you would ask them about their car like that, truly way over the line and you must be a terrible person, just because it’s absolutely essential information gives you no right to go prying in their business like this, etc etc etc
(as much as I hate “/s”… /s.)
This is a false equivalency. I’ll try to spell it out clearly.
I’m looking for a character format (a type of alternative text characters) that doesn’t get removed.
It’s not necessary to know what content is being removed in order to suggest a character format that doesn’t get removed.
So I don’t know why you’re so focused on trying to determine what the content is when it actually is irrelevant to the question I’m asking.
I’m pretty sure people are focused on what the content is because they have reservations about helping someone bypass filters to post stuff that may be offensive enough to be deleted in the first place.
Well thank you for understanding what no one else seems to get, at least. I thought I was going insane.
You don’t physically need to know what the content is, in order to suggest a text character that doesn’t get removed.
People might have a reason why they don’t want to provide a text character that doesn’t get removed.
But since I’ve stated that the content is unproblematic in any way, there should be no problem with providing one.
Hopefully someone is willing and able to help.
Nothing I’m saying is offensive, and trust me, a lot of completely unoffensive and harmless comments are blocked, while very offensive content is allowed. It often makes no sense either, and I think the bots are literally broken. A quick Google search about this issue shows some people wanting to post admittedly offensive things, but other people who were trying to make completely innocuous comments and still having them get removed. And it’s really varied and inconsistent what gets deleted. I’m in the latter camp.
Not many possibilities, are there? People substitute letters with number or punctuation that look like the letters, use various homophones, or split up words with punctuation. Maybe you could try translating your comments to Greek or Romanian.
These are creative solutions. I really appreciate you trying to answer when no one else would. But I’m probably not going to change each letter or word individually for everything I say (or translate to another language, which means most people can’t understand it) when I don’t even know what things are going to be removed for seemingly no reason. What I do currently is similar, if I notice that my comment has been removed, I usually try to rephrase it, split it up, and post it in different ways through trial and error.
Sometimes I’ve noticed if my comment is simply longer than a few sentences (or a small invisible character limit, seemingly), it gets deleted. So truncating what I’m saying can work.
But all of this is very difficult to do and never works consistently. I still get random comments deleted all the time.
The desire for a text character format that doesn’t get removed by default is this: I would be able to type normally without having to worry about deletion. I would not say anything bad, because I don’t already. It would just mean that this faulty comment deletion would no longer prevent me from using the comments section.
Do you observe other people on YouTube using a special character format?
I said what the problem is. Comments are getting deleted. And I’m specifically asking if anyone knows a character format that doesn’t get removed. You don’t need to know what content is being removed in order to suggest a character format. I don’t know why you’re not understanding this.
I don’t think the rest of us have had this problem to the extent that we know a special character format.
Good point. I guess it was worth a try. Someone might know. There were people on some Reddit posts who knew (but didn’t specify an exact format that worked, and the ones I tried I was still having the same problems with). I guess I could try asking on the YouTube community (if there is one), but judging by the toxic replies and hostility in this thread, that could be a shitshow.
I honestly don’t get it.
I watch a ton of youtbe but I am there for the videos and that is it. I understand that you want something different but if you need to jump through this sort of bullshit to keep commenting, i just do not see what the attraction is.
I have never met anyone that wanted to comment in a place that “censored” them that wasn’t a troll or another form of shit stirring asshole.
I’m neither of those things and I’m not doing anything wrong. It speaks volumes that no one is able to focus on the actual question and instead chooses to obsess over what content is being removed.
Can you just imagine a hypothetical, which I assert is actually the case, where I’m trying to say something that you yourself would likely agree is completely reasonable; and yet it’s being deleted. Say that happens so frequently to the point that you have 2 options, to either stop commenting even though you want to be able to, or seek alternative characters that don’t get deleted.
In that situation, seeking alternative characters that don’t get removed is a reasonable solution.
If you don’t have an answer to the question, that’s fine. But I’m not interested in your assumptions about what you imagine I’m trying to comment. It’s all in your head.
The world would be a better place if you stopped commenting everywhere I think.
Well gee, thanks. I mean you literally know nothing about me except that I’m experiencing a weird technical issue on YouTube where a lot of comments I make get deleted when they’re completely harmless. I would never say something as mean as what you just said for example. I don’t assume bad things about other people. And I don’t say anything problematic. I have solid ethics and I don’t even say anything controversial on YouTube. I’m only saying this to defend myself against accusations and negative assumptions. No one believes me. What if no one believes you? I would believe you. One day, you might be in a similar situation. If I’m there, I’ll believe you. Sorry it’s been a long day.
You’re not experiencing a technical issue, you’ve been deemed not worth listening to by whoever has that power. It sucks, but that’s the price of being an asshole - and I say this as a fellow asshole.