• cerement@slrpnk.net
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    when Tony’s Chocolonely started up based on slave free, the financial journals were doing headlines like “will they be able to survive this bold new direction?”

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      They eventually found the cocoa market to be almost impossible to separate from slavery. They still do their best, which is a lot more than most, but they don’t make any guarantees

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        They have some argument for doing business with one of the largest processors who’s not the worst but not provably ethical. Discouraging.

        Found it:

        At Tony’s, we exist so make all chocolate 100% slave-free, not just our own. That means climbing into the lion’s den and tackling change from within. It means getting to the root of the problem and paving the way for others by proving the scalability of our solutions.

        Surprised that the processor, Barry Callebaut, is down for Tony to publish such blunt criticism of them. It’s like “don’t worry, Barry’s made a totally separate production line for us - only the Barry’s non-Tony production line contains the slave blood!”

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        like Nestlé getting out of a child slavery lawsuit because none of the slavery happened in the US?

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            That would be a rad game, if you could wake up Manchurian Candidate style in a bathroom in the 42nd floor rest room just before a board meeting at Corpotek and there is a voice in the back of your head that guides you to the pistol that is hiding under the second toilet from the wall.

            What would the song that activates you be?

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          Fuck it, from where I come from: people in agriculture get smacked just by existing or trying to build common cause with “let’s end hunger in the world”. I’m with you, salutations from America Latina ! And let’s make those fuckers get what they deserve.

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            Quando dou comida aos pobres, chamam-me de santo. Quando pergunto por que eles são pobres, chamam-me de comunista. (When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.)

            —Dom Hélder Câmara, cited in Zildo Rocha, Helder, O Dom: uma vida que marcou os rumos da Igreja no Brasil (2000)

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      I have yet to see proof that Tony’s is actually slavery free. And if it isn’t (as in “we are doing oUr BeSt”) then why the hell would I buy from them instead of… not buying chooclate?

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    John Oliver covered this on Last Week Tonight. tl;dw Cocoa is almost exclusively grown in Ghana and Cote d’Ivoire, two West African countries. Most of these farms are family run and there are millions of them. All the Cocoa they produce is purchased by a few companies who dictate price. Because they buy at such a low price, the only way these farms make money is if they force children in their families to work the farm for no compensation. Ie. Child slavery.

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      The worst part is that the organizations that audit the farms in an effort to reduce slavery fail spectacularly. The Farms receive notice of the audit and what they hope not to find in advance, and then the audits only occur at most every 6 months but more likely every few years. A documentary team of students took a trip out to a few farms that receive these audits and found Child Slavery immediately.

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      Not just children in their family, even children from other regions are kidnapped and forced to work on the farms. It’s genuine, old fashioned, slavery.

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    Oh the printers always screw that up.

    “We’re Slavers. Free Chocolate!”

    There, fixed.

    Lionel Hutz

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    I like how they tried to incorporate the quotation marks as some sort of quirky font by adding it above chocolate as well, yet it is still obvious.

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    Wonder if it’s like cagefree or free range chicken where the label is actually meaningless and could be actively misleading and still legal.

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    So other political and economic systems do not have a history of slaves too? Whenever I see things blaming capitalism for our issues I worry as it means we are no laser focused on the root cause of these sorts of issues…centralized powers getting too big and unchecked no matter their political flavour.

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      Any social hierarchy requires centralized power. It just happens that capitalism is the dominant economic system in the world today that reinforces that hierarchy. The problem is social hierarchy. If only there was an economic system that seeks to abolish hierarchy. Oh well, guess we’ll keep looking…

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        The problem is social hierarchy. If only there was an economic system that seeks to abolish hierarchy.

        Lol one wonders why this system has never been implemented. Oh it’s because it needs complete centralization of the economy.

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    Slavery predates capitalism by about as long as tribes predate capitalism.