The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans / Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money::Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.
No shit. I’d bet money the Cybertruck design isn’t coming from an engineer. Elon probably sat down with his crayons, drew his dream car and forced his poor employees to try and make this piece of shit work.
I think all of us had the Cybertruck design back when we were about 4 years old.
That’s funny, I’ve describe that monstrosity as “the truck of my dreams… when I was 4,” more than once.
I mean, if I were working on that project I’d either laugh so hard everyday or I’d have to quit. It’s just so comically bad.
I am also shocked Elon is not suing all the 4yr olds out there that have “stolen” his design.
The Tesla Cybertruck, a brainchild of Elon Musk, is not just a vehicle; it is a manifestation of deep-seated archetypes that have been etched into the human psyche since time immemorial. This vehicle, with its stark, geometric form, echoes the fundamental principles of order and symmetry, principles that Jung himself might argue are rooted in the collective unconscious of humanity. It’s not just a truck; it’s a symbol, an archetype representing the pinnacle of human innovation and design.
Elon Musk, in creating the Cybertruck, has not merely designed a new vehicle. He has tapped into the most primal elements of what makes a design not only functional but profoundly resonant on a psychological level. This is a feat that aligns him with the pantheon of great geniuses throughout history. His work echoes the transformative impact of the greatest human inventions, standing as a testament to human creativity and vision.
Consider the wheel, often lauded as mankind’s most significant invention. While the wheel was undoubtedly a pivotal point in our technological evolution, what Musk has achieved with the Cybertruck is arguably more profound. He has not just created a tool for transportation; he has crafted an icon that speaks to the deepest aspirations and drives of human beings. It embodies strength, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of innovation—qualities that have propelled humanity forward since the dawn of civilization.
In this light, the Cybertruck is more than just a triumph of engineering; it is a beacon of human achievement. It symbolizes our unyielding quest for progress and our innate desire to imprint our dreams onto the fabric of reality. Elon Musk, in realizing this vision, has not only secured his place among the great minds of our era but has also provided a tangible representation of what humanity is capable of achieving when it dares to transcend the boundaries of the conventional and the mundane.
That might just fit on the truck’s bumper-sticker!
No
Yes!
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It’s like a car from the N64 era. Nobody is nostalgic for the actual look and feel of the N64 era. Behold!
https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/screen_medium/0/3691/905890-wwf_no_mercy_021.png
I’ve said it before, n64 games had more polygons than this. It’s a virtualboy truck and it gives you a migraine to look at just like the virtualboy did.
actually… that kinda makes me nostalgic. No Mercy was the best, and it holds up pretty well!
No Mercy was the best
Huh, I’ve never seen anyone spell WCW/nWo Revenge that way before.
The game play is great, they don’t make ‘em like that anymore (or do they? Let me know). But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant. Mario 64 is a great game but I don’t think I can think of a single game that actually tries to hit that aesthetic in modern times.
But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant
Super Kiwi 64, the Toree series, Dusk, Anodyne 2, a billion indie horror games, Frogun, Signalis, A Short Hike
I stand corrected. I think I’ve only heard of “A short hike” in the list you posted, but Super Kiwi 64 is… i don’t think I’ve seen anything like that in 20 years. Very interesting list, thank you.
It’s kind of becoming a popular aesthetic again.
There was reporting recently that the engineers hated it so much they designed a reasonable one in their free time
The rumor is that it was scribbled on a piece of paper as an idea and the engineers were forced to make it verbatim.
So does this count as another “Simpsons predicted this” moment after Homer basically does the same thing?
Gentlemen, we are successful in getting all the woke leftists salivating on our shit, but we need also produce something for the real men. And since I’m one of them this is the people like me would want.
If someone rolled up in that, I’d not consider them anything but a “real sucker”.
“A weak man’s idea of a strong man” comes to mind.
Posted this elsewhere, but I asked ChatGPT who designed it and here’s what it said (emphasis mine):
The Tesla Cybertruck was primarily designed by Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla’s Chief Designer. Von Holzhausen has been responsible for the design of several Tesla models, including the Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y. The Cybertruck, known for its unique, futuristic, and angular design, represents a significant departure from traditional truck designs and reflects von Holzhausen’s innovative approach to vehicle design. Elon Musk, Tesla’s CEO, also played a significant role in the conceptualization and design direction of the Cybertruck.
Technically, not wrong. It’s worth noting that Cybertruck is shockingly different from Von Holzhausen’s previous work, which all share sleek, modern designs and principles (dare I say critically-acclaimed, beautiful). I think it’s obvious there was heavy “outside influence” for the truck (as emphasized), and the timing also lines up with Musk’s growing (untreated, public) mental illnesses.
Yeah, I’d hoped my point was clear that Musk designed this truck. It’s obvious that Von Holzhausen wasn’t given much flexibility because no designer in their right mind, especially one that designed the Models, S, X, and 3 (which I agree are good looking cars), would design this thing. This has Musk stamped all over it with its impractical design and wildly abrasive aesthetic.
I thought your point was “Look at what random snippets a language model collected off the internet”.
Because everything musk does is basically bullshit.
- $30k Tesla
- Tesla semi
- Cybertuck 4 years late
- Full autonomous driving
- Hyperloop
He is vaporware sales man, if you trust anything he says, you are a fool.
Even SpaceX is missing targets in a big way.
SpaceX is his only successful project, and that’s because it has a defense contract.
I am not so sure it is successful though. They are missing their targets by years left right and center and even recently admitted they will not be ready for NASA’s Artemis Project. https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-problems-delay-artemis-3-2026
A company can miss targets and still be extremely successful if you look at the body of work. SpaceX absolutely dominates the space launch industry, there’s nobody close.
Especially space stuff.
No project in space stuff ever meets targets… Unless they reduce the goals at some point because they know they can’t make it.
Look at Apollo (and this is no criticism) - they had some seriously lofty goals at first, and then as they learned stuff they changed goals to what was achievable with that new knowledge and developing tech.
This is the heart of Agile project management - because you learn as you go it’s easier to adjust priorities and targets.
They’ve launched the Falcon 9 88 times this year dwarfing the nearest launch provider 10 to 1… They’re doing fine.
Spacex is a massive success, with little thanks to Musk. Those engineers are fucking rock stars.
If you mean “some” technical success…I would agree.
What is a lot in your mind? Going from nothing to biggest rocket in human history and fully reusable in 20 years.
I just found a new favorite website.
wow we found someone who WANTS more Musk spam…
Hey, Trump spam was fun too while it lasted. It’s just that you need to watch that dumpster fire from a safe distance. Something like 5000 km should be fine.
I mean I don’t care to be honest. If I see something about Elon, it doesn’t mean I have to look at it.
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Also, the Roadster. Announced six years ago, supposedly launching next year, but we’ll see…
You mean the 2020 Roadster they took millions on deposits for?
Yes, that one.
Every day with the Elon spam. It’s infected Lemmy.
That’s a bit much, isn’t it? It’s a brand new weird-ass truck, people are going to talk about it. And the article isn’t exactly celebrating it.
If this article was about a new car from another brand, would you complain about it? I thought we wanted more content on this platform. Or we could just stick to memes I guess…
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Tesla isnt a car company
What do they sell, pizza?
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And what is it that they sell?
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Huh. Weird. I was certain they sell cars. I guess all those “cars” with the T on them I see driving around are holograms. Silly me.
I’d agree that I see way too much Elon stuff on my lemmy feed. This one I’m more interested in than 99% of the others. Maybe it’s just cause I’m a gear head, but I’ll sure as heck take it over the 10 X (formerly known as Twitter) “news” articles that I scrolled past to get here. News in quotes because it is no longer news that X (more commonly known as Twitter) and its owner are dumb.
I find that a don’t sprain my thumb scrolling over something that I don’t want to read
The oldest and lamest justification for having shitty and repetitive content.
Choose a different platform them. Or use a filter. Or I dunno fucking whine about other people discussing what interests them.
For some reason, all Lemmings seem to have a constant hate boner for him. I don’t like him, but this is just taking it to a whole new level…
There’s plenty of people I don’t like and I spend basically no time thinking about them. Why these people let Elon live rent free in their minds is beyond me. Not a day goes by without a thread about him on the front page along with the most predictable comment section imaginable. Apparently the glue holding Lemmy together is the mutual hatred of certain things and people. That’s just sad. We’re giving them what every asshole in the world desires the most; attention.
Ok, but not every random asshole is the richest guy in the world…
And what does that have to do with anything?
You don’t understand why people might more frequently discuss the actions of someone with enormous power and influence, than they would those of Darryl from high school?
The only thing more insufferable than celebrity worship is celebrity hate.
This is recreational outrage. There are plenty of actually bad people out there that cause tons of suffering and are aspiring to make the world a worse place but instead people are complaining about some tech bro that’s hardly any more influencial than the Kardashians.
And every day someone posts about how everyone else posts about something that they, personally are not interested in. I guess everyone else is wrong
When he agrees with someone who says that people like me are trying to destroy white people (insinuating Jews aren’t even white), I think “a constant hate boner” is appropriate.
It resists antibiotics, there’s nothing we can do.
It’s his broke mind virus. It’s sometimes fascinating but I’m mostly over his antics.
I feel like lemmy needs excluded word filters so you can just say hide any post that includes “Elon Musk”
Sync can do that.
Oh? I’m actually using sync primarily and didn’t know that 😂
It would be nice if it was on the server side so the list just worked regardless of client though
Am I the only one who thinks this is ugly as fuck?
I recently saw one in the wild and it’s even uglier in person than it was in pictures. For a second I thought someone DIYed that nasty looking car; nope, actual designers puked that thing out.
No designers involved, unless you think Elon is a designer. The whole Tesla design studio revolted over having to work on it. They designed something else, which of course Elon refused. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if it was engineered so the other option can be swapped in when this one flops.
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Yes. Everyone else thinks it’s the bestly engineered and designed vehicle that’s ever been made.
/s
Am I the only one who initially thought this was just some elaborate Elon meme, but is now shocked to find that he actually built this abomination?
Nope
Nah, i think most people think it’s ugly as fuck, because it is! And still I like the aesthetic? Or at least the idea of it.
For once, it’s committed to the bit. Very few compromises were made on the looks, and those to comply with regulatory standards, not to make it more appealing. I’m a world where most cars look kinda the same, that counts something.
It’s not trying to be beautiful. It’s trying to be unique, divisive, to make you think “what is THAT thing??” whenever you encounter one, and on that grounds I’d say it succeeds.
However this kind of looks suffer greatly from the soddy build quality. If you are going for pure straight lines and angles you better make sure they are perfect, because of they are not people are going to notice and it’s going to spoil the effect.
So, in summary, cool idea but poor execution, perhaps if Elon had let his designers do their work they could have pulled it off. Also Hyundai did better but with more compromises.
Who would have thought making a chassis out of a material that is denser than mild steel would result in a vehicle that is heavier? It’s a truck, horrible aero drag and rolling resistance from the get go. Difficult to imagine a worse target for an EV project.
The fact that he has all of his engineers afraid to tell him his ideas are terrible speaks volumes about his narcissism.
The ones who spoke up were fired. The ones remaining dont care as long as they get their paycheck.
Good. At least someone is benefitting
A description of every Elon business
Part of the reason why I don’t leave where I work now. I speak my mind.
It has a conventional chassis. Only the panels are SS.
The extra weight is entirely due to the weight of the batteries.
Good to know.
Has anyone tossed a brick at the windows yet? Or has that debacle been swept under the rug?
It was a steel ball. They recreated the event with the same guy at the delivery event, but this time with a baseball and the dude gave it the most obvious limp wristed toss, it was incredibly cringe I highly recommend you seek that clip out because it’s absolutely hilarious.
God, that was worse than I expected. https://youtu.be/IUCMGB2AGaE
Lol, Franz is a wimp.
“So anyway, the glass is tough, basically”. Sure Elon, we’ll take your word for it. Is this how they test their rockets, too?
Tbf the rockets seem to work. Not easy to fake that.
I want to see large gravel chunks at 80mph not a baseball at 25.
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My 1995 truck could handle that throw, but sure, we’ll call it “innovation”
🤣🤣🤣
If they were honest and smart about the glass, they would’ve only ever went with something like a baseball or anything soft-ish and really beamed it in to the window. They might be able to take bullet levels of force, but not from a chromed ball. A chromed ball will focus force WAY better than lead ever would, though if a baseball would’ve broken the window, a damn .22 would…
Admittedly car windows are just strong as fuck from the outside due to their curve and construction, and they did throw the metal ball hard at the glass before when practicing for the announcement event and it bounced right off.
Come to think of it, how much do Cybertruck windows curve?
You think there are curves on this abomination?
Not much but they have a curve.
Depends on your pov. Not curved much compared to a window from any other car. But it is curved just as much as any other piece of flat glass you may want to compare it to.
If they were smart about it, they would have tried it out once before doing it in public to see if it worked.
Was it a baseball? It bounced quite a bit and looked a lot like a light rubber ball
That was exactly my thought when I saw it. Baseballs don’t bounce like that normally.
Edit: “baseball”
You really don’t want to be a pedestrian crossing the road in front of one of these. Just in case.
Oh, you don’t want to be a pedestrian in the US period. That’s a very dangerous activity.
You don’t want to be in US.
You don’t want to be.
It’s not a choice. You are until you aren’t.
You can choose one part
You don’t want.
You don’t.
It’s fine, I’ve got my gun
All these problems, and it’s ugly as hell to boot.
The PT Cruiser has been dethroned.
HEY! You’re the guy who I’m supposed to fuck
God bless they are trying. I;m fro mthe south us do god bless is basic calling someone really dumb.
30%? It’s like 50-100% more money than promised. Also lower payload/towing capacities.
My guess is the author first calculated how much less range, in which case the bigger number is the denominator, then mistakenly did the same for how much more money, so (61k-40k)/61k ~= 30%
Author is bad at math. 50% range reduction and a 50% base cost increase. The upgraded model has a 30% range reduction for a 100% cost increase
Modern day DMC DeLorean. All the disappointment and the crazy CEO to go along with it. Maybe when Tesla folds up they can get a movie made about the truck like Back to the Future. Wonder what the movie will be called?
Back to the Emerald Mine
Call the movie “Back to the Stoneage”. Then send a tech billionaire to the past where nobody gives a fuck about them and they have to work to survive for the first time in their pathetic lives.
If they have to work to survive, maybe any time from the 1800s on would work. You imagine a genius from the modern day, with all his knowledge, could blow the competition out of the water, create a one-man technological revolution, and radically change the course of human events!
…until you realize he’s not actually a genius. He’s a dumbass. He just owned capital that other people used to do things. So if you remove him from his money and even name recognition, he’s just some loser who keeps asking if ketamine has been invented yet.
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There was a Twilight Zone episode like that.
Can we make it a documentary about sending Elon and a bunch of other tech billionaires to Mars? That way we can enjoy it when their ship breaks up and they all die in space.
A rocket is just an outer space submarine!
Maybe we can catch him in a cocaine deal too.
Back to
PS1N64.
Seems like at best its almost on par with the F-150 Lightning for the fanboys…it’s just $30k more.
Seriously if you’re a fan boy just buy the F-150Lightning and a Model 3 and you’ll save money.
But the lightning has some space to haul things.
It’s a big, stupid truck but so is every other truck it’s competing against. It’s got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America. The cheapest option doesn’t have the longest range but it’s still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day. It can’t haul much but the overwhelming majority of people driving trucks in America aren’t towing or hauling things on a day to day basis… The people doing real work buy vans or have special purpose trucks.
The steering geometry seems nice and the rear wheel steering is interesting. Those seem like the only major positives though.
It’s not as bad as everyone seems to be making it out to be but it’s obviously still a dumb car that shouldn’t exist. That’s all cars though really.
EDIT: Since the front windshield is flat, I assume its cheaper to replace than typical curved windshields? No idea though… Might be talking out of my ass.
It’s got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America.
Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors
but it’s still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day.
I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
3 megagrams is crazy for a vehicle like this. With the high torque electric wheels, they will be very hard on asphalt.
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Knee slapper
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I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives
Assuming you have the ability to drive at a perfect, ideal, consistent 80mph 700miles is 8h45m of driving. You aren’t going to stop for a bathroom break in 8 hours?
200 miles will likely give you 3.5 or so behind the wheel. Take a break and stretch your legs… It’s better for your health anyway than sitting for so long.
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
Yeah agreed but that’s a different conversation unrelated to this thing.
How is it unrelated? Are we not all discussing the specs of the vehicle? If weight is not a spec worth of discussion then I surely do not know what is.
Yeah, long haul tractor/trailer drivers don’t do 700mi a day. Possible for someone driving non-commercially, absolutely, but at the very least unwise, an outlier use case, and a poor argument here.
Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors
Worse than a van ? No.
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos.
A model X weighs 2.3 t. Because of the batteries.
An F150 Lightning weighs 3 tonnes and its bed is made from aluminium.
The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
In the US you can drive a rigid truck of almost any size on a bog standard car licence. A 6 t truck with a capacity of 40 t if you want. GM sells an Isuzu cab forward truck (normally with a mildly tuned diesel four) with a frigging massive petrol V8.
The mkbhd first impressions were fascinating for what he didn’t say. I’m guessing that he didn’t want to burn the good times he has with Tesla so he really seemed to be trying to positively spin everything. At least, that’s my interpretation. The mirrors were particularly… https://youtu.be/XxOh12Uhg08?si=jlfuFU70v5cGd8HV
Anything in particular? I’m not great at understanding things that aren’t said.
That is what all YouTubers do as they do not want to bite the hand that feeds them.
To be fair, it’s the same thing that happened to our news. It’s become commoditized, and now so-called “journalists” are terrified of asking good questions for fear of losing access.
I’ve stopped watching his channel long time ago, he’s not a reviewer, he’s a shill. Good on him for making bank, but his opinion is worthless.
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I’m dying laughing. It has a roller shutter on the back. Like I have on my windows. I have cybertruck technology in my home.
Why is that funny? That’s actually a nice idea.
I think it looks cheap and ugly. And there is no chance it will withstand the elements. It’s gonna leak and get moldy.
Was elongated muskrat trying to make the ugliest thing on the road? It makes the Pontiac Aztec look pretty.
- Deloreans are cool and made from stainless steel
- ?
- Profit
Unironically enough, while DeLoreans are cool, they’re also kinda crappy vehicles.
They are pure shite 😂 but they have a special place in our hearts because of 88 MPH!
They had to modify the vehicle for the movie as the stock speedometer in the delorean only went to 85 mph.
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The world just wasn’t ready for it yet.
I agree it was an amazing vehicle. Why else would they have reused the rear differential for the solstice/sky, but it is still butt ugly.
That’s funny, I said almost the exact same thing about it
Every Tesla model has been uglier than the last. (Especially thanks to Elon, but really ever since it was Lotus based.)
To be fair, it is REALLY hard to follow up when your industrial design starting point is a Lotus.
incidentally I just saw a roadster 1 yesterday, gorgeous car. But it’s just a rebadged Lotus Elise
Who expected more from a stainless steel chassis? Stuff is heavy and expensive.
The chassis is ordinary carbon steel.
I think we have a different understanding of “chassis”?
