She finds it very concerning.
That protesters are asking their representatives to represent their views.
WTF is wrong with these people that public expression of views. Is suddenly seen as unacceptable pressure.
Have they forgotten that representing people is their freaking job.
There’s expressing your views and then there’s this.
Bradford West MP Naz Shah - who quit the Labour frontbench to support a ceasefire - said she has received “Islamophobic hatred”,
Which is clearly unacceptable. The problem is that people are cunts and it looks like whichever way you vote you’re going to get some bastards having a go at you.
Rather than harrass and intimidate MPs people need to vote with their feet and deselect MPs out of office if they don’t agree with them. That’s the whole point of democracy.
And if she was critisizing violence I’d be with her.
But all bringing up arguments like this dose. Is provide shelter for a woman actively trying to critisize freedom of speech.
Supporting the right to protest. In no way supports violence. And allowing a few idiots to prevent support for freedom of speech is in no way worth the cost.
Sorry, have you read either the article or my reply?
The right to protest does not mean you can be islamophobic.
“Islamophobic hatred” is a very vague statement. The wording would be very pertinent to the strength of the argument.
“Islamophobic hatred” is a very vague statement. The wording would be very pertinent to the strength of the argument.
Eh? You what? Are you trying to say she didn’t receive islamophobic hatred? Based on what?
What you can do is write to your local MP and ask them to question Naz Shah on the islamophobic hatred she says she was subjected to so that your disbelief can be confirmed.
Be sure to post the reply your MP sends you.
Are you trying to say she didn’t receive islamophobic hatred? Based on what?
No I am saying the statement is very broad. Islamophobic covers from “I don’t like my MP being a Muslim” to “I am going to murder all your family based on your religion”. Both are illegal and wrong. Except the first will get you a slap on the wrist, and the second could easily lead to a prison sentence. Context matters.
I’ve just notice you’re very quick to dismiss claims of islamophobic abuse as “broad” and “it needs to be qualified before we take it seriously” in a lot of your posts and comments.
If “Both are illegal and wrong” (your words) why are you trying to defend it? Even if they’re both just “wrong” one would expect you to denounce the action as messed up or horrid. But you’re acknowledging they’re “illegal” too yet you’re perfectly comfortable dismissing it. “Even though it’s illegal and wrong we can’t believe her”.
Maybe it’s just the way you put things down in words, but it sounds like in all of your posts on this and similar subjects that you very much don’t want to give people of Asian background the time of day. I thought it was only Rishi and posts about his wife and the fact that you don’t like the Tories (and who does) but Naz Shah is a Labour MP. I thought you’d defend a Labour MP from abuse not seek to apologise for it.
This has crossed a line:
Shadow Welsh secretary Jo Stevens had her Cardiff constituency office vandalised after abstaining on the Gaza vote, and told BBC Wales the experience was “intimidating” and “threatening”.
Protesting at Starmer’s constituency office could be seen as intimidation but I feel falls this side of the line as people have a right to protest.
Precisely this.
Sending racist messages, protesting outside homes, vandalising buildings - that’s crossing a line, yes.
Protesting outside offices - not crossing a line.
I really do not understand why he tried to push a 3 line whip. Even Sunak cannot force the hand of Israel. The UK’s standing in the world is incredibly weak currently. Starmer had his own opinion, he should let other MPs have their own opinion also on such a divisive topic. At the end of the day the vote will achieve absolutely nothing except an outlook appearance.
The UK’s standing in the world is incredibly weak currently
Oh yes I heard that in the guardian too…
Where is the UK in a good position in the world. The US don’t want to talk to us, Biden hates Brits. The EU are at the furthest point away they can be. Who exactly do we have strong ties with?
The US don’t want to talk to us, Biden hates Brits.
Oh dear oh dear 😂. Ok then 👌.
You like to throw crappy replies, but don’t actually add to a conversation. Is there something wrong with you?
No I am saying the statement is very broad. “The US doesn’t want to talk to us, Biden hates Brits” is very broad and covers from “the US doesn’t want a free trade agreement” to “the US has cut off all ties with the UK”. Context matters.
I sincerely hope you understand the irony here.
As I said context matters. One muppet being racist will garner little attention. Stick a bit of Racism in a person like, I dunno, Netanyahu and the whole world takes notice. They are not the same.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
She made the comments after a demonstration was held in north London on Saturday close to Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer’s constituency office.
Ms Reeves called for the targeting of public figures by protesters to stop, telling the BBC’s Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg programme: "What I find very concerning is the huge pressure that MPs have been put [under] leading up to the vote and this week.
Hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters descended on Sir Keir’s north London office on Saturday, chanting “Starmer, shame on you”.
Shadow Welsh secretary Jo Stevens had her Cardiff constituency office vandalised after abstaining on the Gaza vote, and told BBC Wales the experience was “intimidating” and “threatening”.
Bradford West MP Naz Shah - who quit the Labour frontbench to support a ceasefire - said she has received “Islamophobic hatred”, while Conservative minister Michael Gove needed a police escort after he was surrounded by pro-Palestinian protesters at a London train station last weekend.
Ms Reeves said she had not personally been targeted but said it had happened “to colleagues” without providing specific examples, adding: “I’m afraid that some of these protests are now crossing the line.”
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