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    complex problem

    It’s amazing how “westerners” always hide behind “complexity” when it comes to the white supremacist colonialism they’ve helped create…

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        had anything to do with it

        Oh… were you running interference for a white supremacist settler-colonialist state today or 75 years ago?

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          This is a lot easier to say from the other side where you don’t have to face the consequences for doing something. Americans don’t really have a choice, they can either vote for the Democrats or the Republicans or throw their vote away. Peaceful protest has long ceased to function and is mostly a tool for the opposing powers of the current party in power.

          Just look at the people of France, famous for not taking shit, suddenly neutered because the increasingly authoritarian government simply doesn’t care if they burn Paris down. Or the UK and the Tories running rampant. Canada’s rising far right movement. Governments are no longer accountable to the people. In powerful countries, the only things left that people can do lead to imprisonment or death.

          And I guarantee you wouldn’t do anything about this either if you were born American. Consider yourself lucky you’re not, and hope your country doesn’t slide into the same position where neither you nor your people will do anything about it either.

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            where you don’t have to face the consequences for doing something.

            Face consequences for what, exactly? Not regurgitating white supremacist pro-Israeli propaganda on lemmy? Exactly what consequences will they face?

            Governments are no longer accountable to the people

            They never were, and it has never been a valid excuse for toeing the party line. That’s what the entire “complexity” schtick is all about - it’s just another fig leaf to hide behind and you know it.

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              I assumed you wanted things to improve instead of a narrower focus on only not making things actively worse. Actual improvement requires action and risk. I have no opinion on it if you just mean Lemmy talk.

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                I have no opinion on it if you just mean Lemmy talk.

                Oh, I don’t know… Phony Stark took a $44B hit because of the way all this internet talk is threatening the status quo that keeps him rich, and the hasbara shill farms have decided lemmy is a good place to invest their energy in. It’s the whole reason the alt-right launched their little “culture war,” after all.

                I’d say all this lemmy talk might mean a whole lot more than you assume it does.

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        It’s still an anti colonial struggles. Right now Palestinians are resisting efforts by Israeli settlers who are using the “war” and the IDF to expand their holdings in West Bank.

        It’s also still an open question as to whether Palestinians who left North Gaza will be allowed back in. Several Israeli ministers have said that pushing them out should be the goal and the Prime Minister has publicly said Israel should just keep Gaza after this military campaign.

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        Not many people still alive, but the exact same imperial systems we’re working the gears on today.