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    Imagine meeting the love of your life and then finding out they talk on the phone like this

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    I call this “pizza phone” because it looks like they are eating their phone like a slice of pizza.

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    I see a lot of kids/teens walking around doing this.

    I think perhaps they don’t know how phones work as phones.

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      A couple weeks ago I saw a high schooler asking friends to grab his phone, but they couldn’t hear him. So he mimed typing with his thumbs.

      How did we lose holding a handset to your ear as the pantomime for phone??? I’ve heard Nirvana on the classic rock station and it didn’t make me feel as old as this.

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        Take your time, hurry up

        Choice is yours, don’t be late

        Take a rest as a friend

        As an old

        Memoria, memoria

        Memoria, memoria

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        My neice asked me “Dad says you only had internet on the phone when you were my age, but I also only have internet on my phone. I don’t get it.”

        That hurt me SO much.

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      I do this, here’s why. Also I’m 23

      I don’t like getting oils and sweat on my screen. I also don’t like putting my dirty screen on my face.

      I can still talk to someone and do other stuff on my phone. If I want privacy or I’m in an area where speakerphone would be annoying then fine I’ll use it the old way, but generally I have headphones to bridge that gap anyways.

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        Yeah, I’m with you. Speaker mode is much more comfortable. But I do have some common courtesy while in public though. Nobody needs to be forced to hear your conversation.

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        You think your fingers don’t generate oils/sweat? You can have the phone next to your ear without having it pushing against the side of your head lol Multi-tasking makes sense though.

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      They grew up with facetime, and this is how they translate that into a facetime without video

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      I know the phone is designed for you to hold it a certain way, but don’t smartphones have the mic at the bottom next to the charge port?

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        I think the point is that the microphone should be close to your mouth, but not in the direction of your breath, so as to avoid pops. That’s why headsets have the microphone a few inches away from where your breath would go through.

        Hence, the preferred holding position would have both the speaker and microphone in optimal spots.

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        Yeah, and my tiny Nokia from 15 years ago also had a mic next to charger very very far from my mouth. Worked completely fine though, since it’s designed to do that.

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        google pixel 6 pro user here, nope, at the top, because fuck the consumers, that’s why

        on a more serious note, normally it doesnt pick up too much external audio but if i’m in a crowded place i have to turn it upside down and back up constantly to speak and then hear

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      I think they often have earbuds but those usually have built in microphones so I don’t really know either, I think it’s popular when recording voice messages too.

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    ITT a bunch of fucking losers claiming to have hearing problems and would rather be a dick in public than invest in proper headphones.

    Note on the claim part, I don’t believe a fraction of the assholes here, just trying to justify their assholery. People with legitimate hearing issues tend to accept the support technology that’s readily available these days. I spend quite a bit of time around folks who are actually hard of hearing.

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      Even if they do have hearing issues, a phone pressed against your ear will sound much louder with much greater clarity compared to the speaker mode.

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          I know right? Like how hearing aids are designed to be held a foot and a half from the head. These people need to be more sensitive

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          Which may be the case, but being immediately dismissive like you are isn’t exactly going to get them on your side now, is it?

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            There is no side, it’s a fact and if you can’t have some empathy for people with hearing issue then what can I say to change your mind?!

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              Well, the guy you are responding to is maybe only thinking of people whose hearing is diminished in some manner. Not people whose hearing is otherwise incapacitated through something like tinnitus or like the other poster in here who has auditory dyslexia. Both of whom may be inconvenienced by headphones or earbuds and have an easier time with speaker phone than those options. Maybe try to explain how you think they are being insensitive or lacking empathy rather than just accusing them of such without explanation.

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      Add to that the amount of headphones out there that do help with various ear issues is growing and the prices are not that heavy.

      They have bone conduction ear phones now that can be picked up online. Your skull can hear for you now. This is the same technology as what hearing aids use and you can just wire it up as headphones to your phone now

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        They have bone conduction ear phones now that can be picked up online

        Yo, that’s dope. As someone who is partially deaf, but mostly hears fine, I’m curious about this.

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          I was just reading about these yesterday. They basically bypass your eardrum so they’re really good for people with hearing loss who still want to use headphones. Definitely check them out if you think they’ll work for you.

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          Yeah I saw several variances available on Amazon just in the past week. Might be worth checking out or seeing how they rate

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    Wow I almost feel singled out by this. But I presume that this is supposed to be in public. Which by every account is a dick move.

    However I do this in private, I.e. in my car or at home. And the reason I do it is because I can’t hear a call without using the speaker phone. Hearing issues aren’t fun.

    However the easier solution is headphones, but calls over Bluetooth can make things worse, from battery life to sound quality.

    Wired headphones are the preferable solution to this but we all know what happened to those.

    TL:DR I do this because of my hearing issues. In public this is a dick move, but headphones aren’t the solution they use to be.

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      but headphones aren’t the solution they use to be.

      Not true. There’s air conduction, bone conduction(which is the same technology for people who actually do experience hearing loss), wired, non wired, in ear, over ear, on ear, noise cancelling and these are not that expensive that you can get it online so it’s super accessible.

      It’s not the early 2000s anymore where you only get buds or on ear or whatever apple bullshit comes with your phone.

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        Agreed, though sadly this doesn’t apply to me. Hearing issues doesn’t always mean hearing loss. I have Auditory Processing Disorder or Auditory Dyslexia means my hearing is good, but I don’t always understand what people are saying.

        Speaker phone makes it easier for me to understand what the other person is saying. But again its a dick move to use it in public.

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          What happened when you tried the bone conducting type? What we’re your findings with this one?

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            I didn’t try those yet. I presume it wouldn’t be helpful since I need noise isolation and blocking. Not sure if they do that

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            I have noise cancelling Sony earbuds for a while now. At this point I’ve just gotten use to how people talk, and guessing at what they said and I missed.

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            Pretty much. The inability to filter voices from other noises. Not fun when you are on a bus and the engine is the only thing you can make out

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              And why I avoid noisy bars and stuff. I noticed once during the fire drill at work, we were all standing outside and the loud alarm was beeping like a truck backing up and the whole time I couldn’t make out what people were saying. I could hear the noises coming from their mouths, but couldn’t understand a thing.

              Alarm stopped and I could understand them fine.

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        People don’t have their headphones turned on and in easy reach at all times. If you’re doing this in a private space, who cares?

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          I don’t. I’m responding to the argument that headphones are not what they used to be. that is incorrect. There is more selection and varying types should one be selecting a pair.

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      I feel this too with the hearing issues, but I have moved away to texting rather than calls mostly. Social took a hit, but I’m still here anyways.

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      Wired headphones are the preferable solution to this but we all know what happened to those.

      What happened? I use wired headphones, haven’t had any problems recently.

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          Ohhh, I completely forgot iPhones no longer had those. Thanks for the reminder, I’ll remember to check for a headphone jack before buying a new phone.

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            The new iphones now have USB c so it’s not as bad as it use to be, since USB c dongles can be cross device compatible. But yeah it suuucks.

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            It’s not a mandatory feature for me personally, but I absolutely prefer having an actual headphone jack and die a little inside when a new phone doesn’t

            You can “get around” that by using a usb c to 3.5mm audio adaptor, or a y adaptor that’s a 3.5mm audio and another USBC to allow for charging at the same time

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    In my defense, I’ve had a phone hang up or do weird stuff because it couldn’t tell the difference between a fingertip and an earlobe way too many times. Like, a shitty phone has nearly altered the course of my life because of this, and that’s not okay.

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      You should be able to hit the power button while on a call and turn off the display, then put it to your ear. Much less effort than the people around you have to make to keep from slapping you

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      It’s not just shitty phones, nice phones have this problem too.

      I cannot for the life of me find the earpiece on new phones, my face dials and hangs up and does all kinds of weird shit if I try to have a conversation on the phone the way you’re supposed to.

      It’s not my fault touch screens suck.

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    I do this when I’m on the phone and alone. Or I set my phone on my tits. But only when I am isolated. I don’t want to bother people with my phone on speaker.

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    That’s not the normal way to talk when you are alone in the room?

    Guess no one will find out because I am alone.

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    I have to do this when my grandma calls. Not because I have loudspeaker mode on, but because SHE has, but still talks with it against her face so she comes out extremely loudly on my end.

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    Maybe I should be single, but this is my preferred way to speak on the phone when I’m not bothering anyone, and the enviornment is relatively quiet. It frees up my hands for a better range of motion if I’m doing anything else, and it removes my common accidental hang-up when my ear or face touches the display.

    If the environment becomes noisy or people are around, I of course switch back to old-school DJ-gesture phone call mode.

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      Why are you holding it up to your face? I use speaker too if I’m busy and my hands are full but i put it down on a table. This has no advantage, you still have to hold it

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        If the phone is too far from your face, they can’t hear you as well. You don’t have to talk as loud to be heard when on speaker phone. Besides, I have a hard time hearing when I don’t use it, and I can clearly hear them when it’s on and near my face. They hear me better and I hear them better; definitely an advantage.

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            Part of what got me started was a bad microphone on my phone, but I realized it had advantages when you’re alone. Honestly, talking on the phone in public at all isn’t great. Everyone can hear your side of the conversation, and while it’s much better than eating pizza, people ought to avoid calls in public whenever possible. Whenever I’m around others, I keep the calls short, and when I’m alone and do take longer calls, I eat that pizza. Judge pizza eaters when you see them, but don’t feel shame for doing it when alone. While you’re at it, don’t let people having loud, vibrant phone conversations off the hook.

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        I sometimes move around in my house while talking, since I’m a nervous guy when it comes to phone calls. Having the phone at chest or waist level makes it a lot quicker to change hands or even use lower arms or elbows to hold things or open doors or whatever. It’s just less constraining, even if it’s marginal.

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    but this is correct, that’s where the mic is, it’s more comfortable than holding it to my ear [especially the modern smartphone shape], and i like knowing i’m talking straight into the mic

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      I like knowing i’m talking straight into the mic

      The microphone was not designed to be talked straight into it like that. It was designed for someone to hold the phone like a human. The mics are designed to help pick up audio from the direction of your mouth when your phone is in the normal position, not the one you’re using. By attempting to maximize efficiency and talk into it, you’re actively making it worse for the other people you’re talking to.

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        You do know that when you switch to speaker phone it’s often switching the microphone setup, right? Like it’s going from earpiece to conference call setup… it’s not like it stays the same and blows out the other end. We have the technology to control noise input and background. This was ~ maybe ~ true of older phones, but it certainly isn’t today.

        I talk on the phone like this due to being a walker & talker. So I pull up my work systems on my phone to update notes and email people as I’m talking. If that were the case the dozens of phone calls a day would tell me I’m way too loud.

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          Yes, and blasting it on speaker mode is a whole different problem. One that mainly ends with that person being an inconsiderate asshole and forcing everyone in the vicinity to listen to their conversation.

          It’s just ‘Main Character Syndrome’ energy and needs to fuck off.

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            You do know you can be on speaker phone and not in public, right? You’re talking about one specific situation but breaking it down as if all people using speaker phone are somehow bad…

            When I’m on speaker phone it’s in my own home when no one else is around. It’s a comfortable way for me to talk on a phone and it doesn’t bother anyone.

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              And I’m not judging your private behavior. At no point did I say I was judging your private behavior. But if you do it in public, you’re an asshole. I have never been talking about what you do privately because it’s privately. Everything here should be taken with the context of this being in public as was implied.

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          If that were the case the dozens of phone calls a day would tell me I’m way too loud.

          Maybe they’re being polite by not mentioning it, or don’t care. Also it’s not about being too loud, it’s about distortion.

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            Part of my background is in sysadmin (MDM) and AV. I’m METICULOUS about how things sound. I frequently check audio devices and always ask others on calls if it sounds good. I mostly talk to sales people now that are in an office on headsets and we’re all outgoing and straight forward enough that we would just tell someone immediately.

            If you’re in public I wouldn’t be on speaker. It’s rude, annoying, and the mics change dynamics to pickup other voices as well, but in the comfort of my home for calls where I don’t want to put in/on headphones it’s much more comfortable to be on speaker.

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      You’ve heard that people that sound uncomfortably loud, garbled and distorted, barely comprehensible, with intermittent popping and hisses over the phone? That’s you.

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      That’s not really how smol condenser mics work, nor how modern (and also multi-mic) phones process your sound. You don’t even sound better.

      That’s just the same thinking as old people shouting in their (digital) phone so the other person ‘can hear them better’.

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      Plus, I really hate the idea of my cheeks touching the screen… because then after the call I end up having to clean the screen off. Damned OCD.

      Edit: Jfc lol was downvoted for sharing my phobia, stay classy Lemmy

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        I am very confused, why is your cheek touching the phone? Are you mashing your phone against your face?

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        I mean this just goes to the heart of the notion that mental illness is not your fault but it is your responsibility.

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    What is worse is when people are wearing a Bluetooth headset and still holds their phone like this.

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      I remember my first time seeing someone use a Jabra bluetooth ear piece. 2003 in a college dorm, a girl was walking back and forth but her phone was probably in her hoodie. I was bewildered, wondering why she was talking aloud to herself.