The reason I gave up on MP3’s and subscribed to Spotify was because Spotify was easy. I’ve been listening “Iron Maiden - Empire of the Clouds” song every day and like a week ago, its removed. This was the last straw for me. Right now I’m trying to find “Stremio” of the music world. Can someone assist?

Key features I’m looking for:

  • Synchronization between devices
  • Offline play
  • Playlist support
  • Both desktop and mobile apps
  • Wide music library (optional if I will upload music)
  • Lyrics (optional)

Update: thanks to everyone who shared their solutions 🙏

  • Dasnap@lemmy.worldEnglish
    53·
    1 year ago

    I think a mixture of Jellyfin and Lidarr are what you’re looking for, but I haven’t tried out Lidarr personally. If it’s as good as Sonarr then it probably works well.

    Jellyfin is a media server, so can be access from any device. Most use it for TV and films but its music player and library work well also.

    -Arr services are used to crawl usenet/bittorrent trackers for different kinds of media.

    I’d imagine the process for this would be you add an album you want to Lidarr, which will then look around for the audio files, use a downloader you point to in order to download it, and then move it into your Jellyfin library.

    Edit: I’ve pointed at Docker repos because I’m a container whore but I believe they all have bare-metal builds also.

    • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
      21·
      1 year ago

      I was an early adopter of Jellyfin and love it - but personally prefer Navidrome for my music server. Granted, I haven’t looked at the music capabilities of Jellyfin in a long while, because I’ve been running Navidrome.

      Symphonium android client is my recommendation for that (and I believe it also works for Jellyfin) but there are others.

      My pipeline is essentially as you describe though Lidarr –> nzbget –> Navidrome

    • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      This person gave up on pirating MP3s because it was too complicated and the top suggestion is to start a homeserver. LOL you guys are woefully out of touch.

    • Norgur@kbin.social
      5·
      1 year ago

      Yet, that’s the exact opposite of Stremio for the music world. The point of Stremio is that you do not queue stuff, download it, save it all to your hard drive and all.

      • Dasnap@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Music Stremio would be cool, but I think hosting it yourself is the closest you can get with music while still retaining a decent user experience :/

        I guess they could also throw a load of adblockers onto YouTube? Ublock Origin, ReVanced YT Music etc. But that isn’t really ‘piracy’ at that point if OP is purposely wanting to avoid the actual big names.

        • Norgur@kbin.social
          3·
          1 year ago

          I mean, the label doesn’t matter in the end, does it? Like, it doesn’t need.to be called Piracy to be worthwhile. If you use the big one’s servers without any limitations but aren’t paying them for it,.isn’t that “avoiding the big one’s” in a way?

          • Dasnap@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            I’m not sure if OP is privacy focused, or doesn’t want their playlists tied to one service, or something like that; I’m just pulling assumptions out my arse.

    • iso@lemy.lolOPEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I checked out Lidarr and it only supports usenet and bittorrent. Unfortunately it won’t work for “local” music I think.

      • Dasnap@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        Lidarr doesn’t need your whole library, just what you need to download. You can add your local music to Jellyfin alongside anything you get from -Arr services.

        I know when I’ve used Sonarr it’s also managed to parse my local library when I’ve added a series I’ve already downloaded to look for future episodes.

        • iso@lemy.lolOPEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Makes sense 🤔 I’ll check Jellyfin for music capabilities first and maybe then I can try Lidarr. Thank you 🤗

      • Haphazard9479@lemm.eeEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        What do you mean “local”? Lidarr is not a player. It looks at your already existing music files and pulls any missing albums from the list of artist you already have.

        • iso@lemy.lolOPEnglish
          5·
          1 year ago

          Wrong word. I meant I’m from a 3rd world country and the music from my country can’t be found on public indexers. Not a native speaker 🤷‍♂️

          • Dasnap@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            1 year ago

            Haha, be careful with the word ‘local’ when talking about IT stuff. I took it as ‘local machine’.

            In terms of your actual tastes, I wouldn’t know where to recommend for that. I don’t do much music piracy myself outside of SittingOnClouds for game soundtracks that I then put on Jellyfin and YouTube Music (Nintendo put your fucking soundtracks on music services I swear to God).

          • William@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Unfortunately, I think “local” is the best word usually, just not when also talking about computers. I’ve tried to think of an alternative and haven’t come up with one. I think you need a phrase like “music from local artists” or something.

  • baconsanga@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    1 year ago

    I have Lidarr on Steroids to automate downloads. It uses Deemix to download automatically. Deemix will download in MP3 with a free Deezer subscription, but if you want FLAC you need the premium suscription, or the month trial.

    In Lidarr you can import a spotify playlist and it will add all the artists for you, which then downloads through Deemix. You can even download the entire discography if you like. Plus extras like album art.

    For streaming I use Airsonic from my PC, then the Substreamer app on my android for the front end. You can create playlists in here and can also download songs on your device for offline play.

    When I’m done downloading the majority of my playlists Artists and want to get rid of the Deezer subscription, I’ll probably switch to Usenet and Soulseek to download.

    It payed off today, we had a mobile/internet outage for most of the day and I was still able to stream music.

  • Stephen304@lemmy.mlEnglish
    27·
    1 year ago

    I’ve been downloading tons of my Spotify music using spotdl and sticking it on Plex, which kinda accomplishes most of what you want. I then organize it with lidarr. Spotdl doesn’t actually download from Spotify but it uses Spotify metadata to tag files after matching with and downloading from YouTube music, it might just use youtube-dl/p under the hood but being able to give it a Spotify playlist, artist, or album url from Spotify makes it super convenient. For some artists I just download the entire artist in one go.

    • null@slrpnk.netEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      Now this is what I’ve been looking for!

      I like to DJ sometimes and I typically just create playlists for sets I want to do and listen to them over and over to get familiar / play around with the order / discover new tracks that fit by letting Spotify make suggestions.

      It’s a pain to then have to go find all those tracks manually, so this sounds perfect for my usecase.

      • TonyStarkRevant@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        @deezertogdrivebot you can use this bot on telegram to download from Spotify and it even support playlist and gives you zip file link and the source of audio is Deezer so it can goes up to FLAC

    • theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      Seen as OP already uses Spotify I would add in ripping music directly from there using something like soggfy for anything you can’t find on soulseek.

      Obviously doesn’t help with the removed iron maiden song but is an easy way to be able to make your own copy of things still on there.

  • HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zipEnglish
    18·
    1 year ago

    I don’t know if there exists a solution with all your requirements. You could host your own music library via Plex or something, and aquire stuff via lidarr but this doesn’t have the instant availability of Spotify.

    I’d probably use ViMusic (android) if we didn’t have a family apple music sub going. It basically uses the YouTube music backend. Super easy to set up and use, has on-device playlist and download support. I don’t think it does synchronisation though.

    • Saxoboneless@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Hyperpipe (self-hostable YTMusic frontend) supports accounts, which allows for syncing between devices. It really needs an app on at least mobile for it to really be worth it though, as right now it can only be used through the web UI.

    • janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      What’s the bitrate gonna be on ViMusic though – is it whatever is on actual YouTube video uploads? I imagine that would be very lossy. I could be wrong. If it was ~320kbps I’d be all over it. That’s what I’m looking for really. Short of my current solution, which is Soulseek > cloud service storage > CloudBeats (Android app) for stuff I want decent quality of, and Spotify adfree using XManager for discovery and lower quality listening.

  • dislocate_expansion@reddthat.comBEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    why not buy the album and then use it locally on your device? vlc runs pretty much everything and you could fit thousands of songs while offline (could even remove the gsm/wifi/bluetooth from a phone running some FOSS os and turn it into your offline media device). or just get a cd player for $1 at a thrift store, offline, private, full access

    thrift stores sell albums for $1 and there are a few sites that sell new music to be downloaded for cheap

        • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          There are ways to rip physicsl media but they break the encryption which is ‘illegal’.

          I meant more just having control of the actual files when buying from places like Amazon or ITunes rather than just being given library access to the songs for so long until that company loses the license and deletes them from your library.

      • flora_explora@beehaw.orgEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        On bandcamp! If I want to support artists, this is the site I always go to. And yt-dlp works also great on bandcamp when I’m not feeling so generous ;)

  • angelsomething@lemmy.oneEnglish
    9·
    1 year ago

    My setup is lidarr+airsonic. This setup fulfills all the requirements you listed. The webplayer is really good and you can use free apps to stream your library on mobile devices. Highly recommend “substreamer” for iOS and android. To access my library at home, I use Twingate (Zero Trrust Access VPN that uses the QUIC protocol and it’s lightning fast). Also, the mobile app allows for offline playback and has cool playlist builder features.

  • Norgur@kbin.social
    9·
    1 year ago

    The easiest thing to do is probably something like YouTube Music revanced and/or Spotube.

    • RatzChatsubo@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      This is great, but you should consider setting up Plex if you are downloading from tidal. I say this because the file structures are the same and Plex has an awesome app called Plexamp now

      • Oha@feddit.deEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Plex shitty account system can suck my ass. I always prefer open source stuff and Navidrome has a few really nice clients on Android

  • jeremyparker@programming.devEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago

    iBroadcast lets you upload your music and listen to it anywhere - phone, browser, or offline access. I have like 42,000 songs and I’ve been using it for years. It’s awesome.

    To get the mp3s, I still use the website that’s often referenced in old /mu/ memes/instructions.

    I’m pretty sure it hits all your features - I’m not sure about lyrics though.

      • jeremyparker@programming.devEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Idk if it’s actually open source, but they seem to be going on the open source financial model: make an awesome thing and then survive on the generosity of people with money who appreciate it.

  • RatzChatsubo@lemm.eeEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    Tidal-dl on your phone using sharable links on tidal. Then ftp your flacs to a Plex server. It’s all in order with artwork that way and is super easy to do

    Then use Plexamp

    • rockhandle@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      It’s easier to install streamrip (beta version) on the server directly. That way, you can download music directly to the server and skip the whole ftp part.

  • mydude@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    1 year ago

    I use ViMusic, front end for Youtube Music (I think) for Android. Needs to be sideloaded (obviously). You can search up existing playlists. I have not found a single song that can not be found on this app, since it also includes the normal youtube library. It just works. There are other open source front end for spotify that are similar to this, but I’ve been using this for a while, and not found anything bad about it. So highly recommend. Also, the radio function is the best radio function I have ever tested.