• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The only way to make a profit under capitalism is to satisfy the needs of your consumers,

    I think this may be the most stupid thing I’ve read today, and I’ve already read three headlines about Trump!
    I guess capitalism would never dream of creating monopolies and artificial shortages to increase profit? And it wouldn’t dream of trying to trick customers to pay more for less?

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      I guess capitalism would never dream of creating monopolies and artificial shortages to increase profit?

      The only way to be a monopoly is to have a government-grant privilege, for gaining legal rights to be a preferred producer is the only way to maintain a monopoly in a market setting.

      “Artificial shortages” are created by the mere existence of intellectual property. Even what you define “artificial shortage” is probably not artificial at all, as the price of a final consumer good is not determined by its cost of production.

      And it wouldn’t dream of trying to trick customers to pay more for less?

      “Prices are only incidental manifestations of [economic] activities, symptoms of an economic equilibrium between the economies of individuals.” This means that the emergence of a realized price […] coincides not only with the consummation of the exchange process but also with the attainment of a momentary state of rest by the parties involved in the exchange.

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        1 year ago

        for gaining legal rights to be a preferred producer is the only way to maintain a monopoly in a market setting.

        Surely you are aware of economic moats that have nothing to do with government privileges. Many things are very very hard to compete with from scratch. Take the advanced chips issue - there are 2 companies that can make 3nm chips IIRC, TSMC and Samsung. Many governments would love to have the manufacturing in their country, but even with massive incentives, we’re 5-10 years out at best of anything being completed. This isn’t a limit of IP (though there’s that too), it’s a limit of trained up people, processes and equipment that’s extremely expensive.

        Now lets say you think TSMC charges too much, and you could do it cheaper. Well, first you need billions of dollars to just build your plant. Then you need years to get trained people who can get reasonable yields from it. So here you’re at 10 years or so, when you’re just dumping money into a hole. Now, you’re BCMC (Better Cheaper Manufacturing Company) - which people reasonably distrust when you’re the new kid on the block in a complicated and difficult manufacturing product. So you have to sell lower, probably at a loss as you work out efficiencies. And not a little lower, but you have to entice people to try out this “off brand”.

        Can you see why people might not be rushing to compete with TSMC?

        Oh, and if you manage to get reasonably good, there’s also a good chance TSMC just buys you out to prevent competition. This happens all the time in pretty much all fields.

        So while it’s hard to have a T-Shirt making monopoly, or a farmers market monopoly, it’s much easier to defend a capital intensive industry.

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        1 year ago

        The only way to be a monopoly is to have a government-grant privilege,

        Amazon, Microsoft, Google.

        Many kinds of product are now only produced by a handful of different companies, who have acquired numerous smaller companies, and maintained the brands, keeping consumers generally unaware.