• afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        I hate how we have so many problems getting food standards correct. You got one extreme with the market cutting quality and you got the other extreme with government killing innovation. I should be able to buy a beer that was made by some microbrewer madman with strange taste combos I should also be able to buy real freaken ice cream not frozen dessert treat.

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          I might be crazy sounding, but I don’t like the idea of innovating what goes in my body. There are eons and eons of dead humans that tried to be creative with what they ate. It’s not a game I personally want to play.

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            Well I do. I like trying a beer that has notes of orange in it. I am sure I have some cans of Budweiser lying around you can have.

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              I’ve had Dill pickle beer, curry beer, habanero beers, and all sorts of weird beers. I love experimenting with crazy flavors lol. I might not drink them regularly, but it is fun to taste something you’ve never had before, whether it is good or bad.

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                I agree. This is the greatest era for beer drinkers in human history, meanwhile there are areas that have beer laws allowing for zero variation. A unit of beer with about as much heart, craftsmanship, and creativity as an metal i-beam or a plastic spoon. Yes this is what I want. In a very finite life with so much to experience I want to drink the exact same beer over and over again.

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                  I totally agree. It’s incredible experiencing totally new flavor combinations. Why drink only the same lager all the time when there are so many new flavors to try.

                  I’m also not afraid to have something I don’t like. Even if I hate a flavor, I’m always grateful to have tried it at least once.

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            Then you should be able to choose not to buy it, just as people should be able to choose to buy it.

            I think with sufficiently informed consent people should be able to buy raw milk that was sitting in a moldy bucket for two weeks.

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              Great concept. This requires regulation to force sellers to put all ingredients on packaging, and to test that those are accurate. Otherwise sellers lie and put chalk in bread.

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                  Because words have common meanings. You can’t say “contains milk” and have that be almond. There needs to be definitions of what is what.

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                    I am thinking of several words to describe you and your elitist attitude that gives you the right to dictate to the rest of us what we can and can not do. Would you care to guess a few of them?

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                If the buyers don’t trust the seller, or just want to know the information, they can refuse to buy any product without ingredients listed, trusted quality control stamp, date etc. Or they can decide to just blindly trust a seller if they want to. Let me buy my cheap chalk bread if I prefer / don’t care.

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                  You can only buy what exists. In the capitalist race to the bottom, good things won’t exist at reasonable prices.

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                    You can only sell what people are buying. In a truly free market, good things will exist at the price set by supply and demand, making the prices exactly that: reasonable.

                    If I’m one supplier noticing you, another supplier, selling too expensive and/or bad quality products, nothing stops me from “stealing” your customers by simply selling better products than you, or lowering my prices, which forces you and other suppliers to reevaluate your price/quality.

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              I agree. If you want to buy my piss in a bag, and we trust each other, no one should possess the power to stop our trade.

              But I don’t get the example you provided, since am already able to buy cheese in the shop!?

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              Yeah but then you’ve got some of those same regarded people filling up a baby bottles and feeding it to their kids. And then pikachu face there’s dead babies from bacteria infections.

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          It is hard writing rules for humans that they can’t game. In sales they had to constantly change the rules to prevent them from being gamed.

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          And if you want bird shit in your milk, you need to reduce regulations and oversight. It’s really a question about freedom.

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      It’s at least partially satire, because libertarians oppose the existence of “corporations” (in particular, llcs) in the modern sense. Corporations are antithetical to personal liberty.

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          I know this is probably a joke, but this recurring joke is dumb. Libertarians disagree with Republicans on like half of political issues, and with Democrats on the other half. I invite anyone who doesn’t believe me to go check the Party platform.

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            It doesn’t matter how Libertarians think. It matters who they caucus and vote with. They generally vote with Republicans. So their protests are irrelevant.

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              I don’t know what you mean. The Libertarian Party runs its own candidates. Members of the Party generally vote for those candidates.

              During the Cold War before the Party existed and while it was still very young there was an idea called Fusionism that did involve libertarians and conservatives basically forming a truce, since they both saw the Soviet Union as the biggest problem at the time. But that time is over.

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          My absolute favorite part of this exchange is the number of intellectually dishonest folk downvoting my comment and upvoting yours, as if we disagreed with each other.