• Nobsi@feddit.de
        37·
        1 year ago

        Here is a list of peace offers which would grant the Palestinians a country of their own, they refused all of them

        1937 - Peel commission, rejected

        1947 - Partition resolution, rejected

        2000 - Camp David, rejected

        2001 - Taba, rejected. Arafat starts the second intifada and a year later changes his mind.

        2008 - Olmert offer, rejected

        Hamas have tried to agree to boundaries Despite media attempts to portray it as a new Hamas charter, it is not. The new ‘policy document’ accepts the creation of a Palestinian state in 1967 borders, but still rejects Israel and claims its territory. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39775103

        Here are some other noteworthy peace meeting or proposals from Israel to the rest if the Arab world, which were rejected

        1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.

        1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.

        1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.

        1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.

        1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected

        1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.

        1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.

        1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.

        1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).

        1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).

        1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

        2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected.

        2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.

        2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.

        2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected.

        2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.

        2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

        Not gonna link Trump’s imbecilic peace plan as an example.

        Here is a list of peace offers the Palestinians the governing body of palestinians offered to Israel -

        None

            • Nobsi@feddit.de
              11·
              1 year ago

              And what happened before 1940? And what happened before 1920? And what happened…

              This conflict is based on religion. There will never be one true “owner of the land” because land doesnt work like that.

                • Nobsi@feddit.de
                  7·
                  1 year ago

                  I mean the jews that fled to israel were being genocided everywhere. This all started way before the holocaust my dude. This conflict is not one to be very wisecrack about. How far back do you look for who is the baddie and whos the goodie?

                  • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
                    4·
                    1 year ago

                    Yeah they definitely were, and that’s awful, all genocide is awful.

                    Its hard to say how far back to look, one would hope as generations continue hatreds of past injustices (if anything was done to ease/reduce/eliminate) those injustices would start to simmer down on all sides.

                    Unfortunately very often prejudices are passed down to the next generation which just starts the cycle all over again.

                    Regardless, the Holocaust was horrible no question but that doesn’t then justify the government of Israel getting away with war crimes, nor does me saying that justify in any way the horrible things Hamas has done. However it is important to understand context especially in the more recent past.

                    Understanding how and why the Israel/Palestine conflict has simmered would lead to how and why Hamas was formed in the first place, similar to how looking at America helped formed Al Queda to overthrow the Soviet-backed government of Afghanistan

                • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
                  3·
                  1 year ago

                  if only one side is going to get the land due to lack of action from the international community, then it deserves to be Israel.

                  It’s a vibes-based thing, then? Cool

                • Nobsi@feddit.de
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  At the end of the day this whole thing is too big and old for me and all i will contribute is dunking on antisemites and contrarians