• @HerrBeter@lemmy.world
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      479 months ago

      Honestly yes, I don’t think people truly realise how deeply in the shitter we are. Best outcome would be to duck off with it now, in a year. Carbon zero. But this won’t happen.

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺
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          129 months ago

          As a matter of fact they are not. Otherwise we would see a drastic shift in policy and voting behaviour, given how strongly the climate changed in the past decade. But instead people vote conservative and reactionary again, after they lost their homes in wildfires, floods and storms that can be reliably linked to climate change, and whose occurence renders their home area unliveable in the long run.

          We had a flood two years ago in Germany killing over 200 people. Our former conservative party, now populist reactionary, removed a law for flood protection just two month prior to the devastating flood. And the people most affected voted for them again in the upcoming election. And that was after the parties chancellor candidate laughed heartily in the background while the president held a speech mourning the victims.

          The people are either dumb, or ignorant or both. They’d rather die than change anything in the slightest way.

        • @HerrBeter@lemmy.world
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          99 months ago

          Go on Facebook and look for the comment section of news coverage on EVs or anything climate related. They are at most vaguely familiar with the issue, or deny it in some shape or form

      • @Pasta4u@lemmy.world
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        19 months ago

        If you use any modern product you wint be carbon zero. So please stop wearing clothes, using the internet , living in a home, eating any type of food.

        • @starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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          49 months ago

          You’re right, since the only two options are the destruction of the planet or to stop using literally anything ever at all, I guess I’ll fucking kill myself now

        • @HerrBeter@lemmy.world
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          39 months ago

          Yes? That’s why we’d have to go after the corporations, the problem arises at production. Truth is we’re overpopulated because of the bosch-haber cycle, which is fueled by fossil fuels.

          The alternative is certain extinction

        • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          How about we lower our collective emissions by tossing you into a volcano, instead? Would you like that?

        • @BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          219 months ago

          You don’t. Protests happen all the time in the hundreds. How many have you heard of? I haven’t heard of any unless it gets violent. Unions strikes are disruptive so you hear about them. Cost of living marches walking past government buildings or protesting outside of them? Nothing.

          Want to know the last march I heard about that was large and non disruptive? It was on a Youtube video. The youtubers didn’t even know it was happening.

          Blocking a road is boring now so isn’t being reported as much, disrupting a gaming tournament gets news.

          Rallies help don’t get me wrong but they are often ignored. The disruptive, novel protests get news coverage.

            • @BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              139 months ago

              Okay lets take the civil rights movement. Incredibly disruptive and even violent at times, albeit usually in response to violence. Rosa Parks for example sat on the front of a bus and got arrested. She didn’t move. She stopped a bus and all the passengers on the bus until she was arrested, nobody critisises her because some people were late that day!

              Highschollers trying to desegregate school needed armed guards to just get in the building. They didn’t go “dang! Best hold up a sign outside, don’t want to stop others learning”

              Many performed sit-ins. Sit-ins take up space and make it hard for others to use the space for its intended purpose.

              They were very disruptive and people hated them for it. It wasn’t only speeches and marches.

              Women sufferage involved arson, women learning martial arts and beating people up, vandalism, and sex boycots, once again not just speeches and marches.

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                Rosa Parks for example sat on the front of a bus and got arrested. She didn’t move. She stopped a bus and all the passengers on the bus until she was arrested, nobody critisises her because some people were late that day!

                I think a lot of people tend to look at Rosa Parks’ act through a modern lens and say, “she wasn’t disruptive, she was just sitting there,” not realising that it was incredibly disruptive at the time. What she did seems like nothing by today’s standards because her protest worked.

                Women sufferage

                Martyrs, too. Emily Davison threw herself in front of a horse race and died for it in the name of women’s suffrage. There’s debate about whether she intended to die, or whether she may have just been trying to attach suffragette colours to the King’s horse, but the fact is that she was consciously willing to die for her cause. Plus she went on hunger strike in prison to the point where she was force-fed on multiple occasions.

                Suffragettes going on hunger strike in prison, and the prison authorities violently force-feeding them to the point where they sustained fairly serious injuries, was common in the early 1910s. It’s not particularly pleasant reading, but there’s an article from the Museum Of London that talks about some of the lengths suffragettes went to with their hunger strikes that is worth reading for anyone who isn’t familiar.

                I think everyone should learn about the suffrage movement and the lengths they were willing to go to to fight for women’s rights, particularly with civil protest being a somewhat relevant topic over the last few years.

          • @BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            119 months ago

            Just Stop Oil threw soup on artwork in a museum. It wasn’t destroyed all the souped art had protective glass shields and they knew that which is why they did it. Basically just made a mess that you can clean up with a cloth and mop.

            They’ve souped quite a few artworks before.

    • @tal@lemmy.today
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      49 months ago

      I suppose that there’s plastic in various electronic devices, like controllers.

  • falkerie71
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    179 months ago

    Well this is way better than blocking roads and glueing your hands on the tarmac

    • Lols [they/them]
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      189 months ago

      getting your computer toy showcase interrupted is literally exactly like an old lady getting stabbed, you absolute dork

        • Lols [they/them]
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          89 months ago

          youre not a loser for playing video games, youre a loser for comparing a game showcase getting interrupted to stabbing someone, or implying that being okay with the first says anything about your opinion on the former

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺
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          39 months ago

          Every car that is on the road is contributing to the blocking of emergency vehicles. If we’d follow the demands of these groups it would make it much easier for emergency vehicles to respond to emergencies.

          And which peace of art were actually damaged? Throwing soup on a washable glass pane cannot be considered damageing by all means, leaving aside the fact that the comparision to stabbing someone remains ridiculous

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              they tried breaking through the glass protecting the painting first, so they could destroy the actual painting

              Well that’s just straight up not true. Not only did they not try to break the glass, they did research in advance to ensure that the art was appropriately sealed to ensure they didn’t damage it. If your argument is so shaky that you feel the need to just fucking lie to make the people you don’t like look worse, maybe you might want to reconsider your stance instead of just committing even harder.

              Since you’re inevitably going to go “yEs ThEy DiD”, here’s a video of them doing it to get that over with in advance.

              https://youtu.be/BN-C5N60u_M?si=t50PSWfEz1pQ73hJ

              Edit: “won’t someone please think of the poor display cases?!”

              Jesus man, the planet is dying and you’re upset about a pane of glass getting soup on it - get your damn priorities straight

                • Lols [they/them]
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                  19 months ago

                  is there any actual footage of said visitor trying to smash the bullet proof glass covering the mona lisa or is this literally just based off the one tweet news orgs seem to reference

                  this guy also is not associated with just stop oil from what i can tell

                  it seems pretty disingenuous to judge the demonstration in the post, or anyone supporting it, because ‘some completely unrelated guy did something completely unrelated once’