• qevlarr@lemmy.world
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    I support this group. No country can say they’re doing something against climate change and also approve new oil drilling at the same time.

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      Sure - but what do the attendees of a gaming conference have to do with new oil wells being approved?

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        I suspect it’s for the publicity. Events like this attract different demographics than the usual targets, so it’s more exposure. It might not make the tabloids but it does get reported on.

        Historically, any publicity has been seen as good publicity. But, given the reputation they are building, I think this is not how it is playing out.

        So I agree, it just makes people with little to no power feel blamed. Time for a change of approach.

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        Digital terminals are a huge source of pollution for pure luxury, and gaming is a very good representation of the stupidity of the overconsumption society.

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          gaming is a very good representation of the stupidity of the overconsumption society.

          Certainly an interesting take.

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            Well you have ever more expensive hardware that uses ever more reolsources to run ever more expensive games that are ever more buggy and ever deeper into the uncanney valley.

            Mobile gaming on the other hand is filled with shitty addictive games filled with ads and micro transactions to scam children and the elderly out of their money. Not that desktop/console games don’t also have addictive micro transactions either.

            If this doesn’t feel stupid to you I don’t know what does.

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              You’re taking the worst examples of a massive industry and misrepresenting them and demonizing them to make your point. You are deliberately misrepresenting one of the largest media industries (if not the largest) to strengthen your argument.

              Hardware has become cheaper, games on average have become cheaper, games are not “ever more buggy” that’s a symptom of AAA games being made by giant corporations, no idea wtf you are even bringing up “the uncanny valley” for that has no bearing on the conversation in any way, mobile gaming is very much its own thing and nearly every person I know that calls themselves a “gamer” has nothing to do with the type of game you are describing, and micro transactions are easily avoided if you don’t play shitty corporate games.

              Almost every single complaint you made is exclusive to AAA games made by greedy corporations. Meanwhile myself and most “gamers” I know largely play independent games with no microtransactions, no massive system requirements, and do so on older systems.

              The only stupid thing to me right now is the post I am replying to.

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    The heiress of a fossil fuel company provides money to a fund that funds them. Just Stop Oil says the majority of its funding comes from the Climate Emergency Fund. The fund, is founded by fossil fuel heiress Aileen Getty. Aileen Getty, is an heiress to the Getty family fortune established by oil magnate J. Paul Getty.

    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2022/11/03/aileen-getty-billionaire-proud-to-finance-environmental-activists-dramatic-actions_6002800_114.html

    It’s just kind of bizarre to me…

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      Not everyone in a family has to have the same worldviews. Just look at Elon Musks daughter for an example of this.

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      Hey if I found out my family fortune came from the slave trade I’d work against that. I imagine finding out your family’s fortune came from the petroleum industry is pretty depressing when you look at our world - knowing that you profited on all this misery and loads more misery to come. Better to get out ahead of it, whether subconsciously or deliberately.

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      The most cynical view is that she funds them specifically because it makes climate protestors look bad. They are radical in their methods and their targets seem to just be random spaces where there is a larger(but not too large) public density.

      However the reality is probably more complicated. She might disagree with her grandfather and agree with their message, she might think that pulling funding would be worse PR than the few headlines that JSO generates, or she might not care one way or the other.

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      She has no financial interest in the fossil fuel industry. At all.

      It is well documented that she is acting out of remorse over what happened and is trying to make things right. Again: She does not benefit from the fossil fuel industry at all. The story that she is a covert operative working for the fossil fuel industry has been debunked time and again. Stop the conspiracy stuff

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      I’ll believe they are a psyop. Either that or they got some insane feedback loop in their circles leading them to believe this stuff actually helps.

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        With the number of absolute dimwits that seem to think any publicity is good publicity, I suspect it’s the latter. Every stunt they pull, someone always comes out in support of them.

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    Why at a games tournament? They should do this at an even that uses a lot of oil like Motorsport, marine etc… Games don’t use a lot of oil really lol

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      Not directly but… I genuinely worry - video games are basically software that turns electricity into heat. The entire market is growing year over year, requiring more power each generation. Do the math, it’s pretty easy.

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        Computing requires little oil, while we aren’t there yet its safe to assume it will be powered by green energy

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          video games are basically software that turns electricity into heat.

          your reply in no way addresses this fundamental point.

          The entire market is growing year over year, requiring more power each generation. Do the math, it’s pretty easy.

          ditto. even if we only worry about the heat generated, and not the power sourced (assuming your 100% renewable which is not realistic today) - we still have a problem.

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            In this particular case, the protestors are complaining about oil, not power use or heat generation, so your fundamental point isn’t really valid

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              yes yes we only have a single problem to worry about, thank goodness.

              oh wait, no… that’s not, actually, the case at all. not even closely.

              thanks for your comment tho bellend, when the human race cooks itself this will be a great example of how we saw it coming, but didn’t give a fuck.

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                  yeah, keep sticking your head further into the ground. like there’s a right place to remind people we’re cooking the planet.

                  got kids? they’re going to despise you if so, you couldn’t even be bothered to give two shits about their future.

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        There are a lot of much more harmful things people could be doing with their spare time than playing vidya games.

        Besides, it entirely depends on how renewable the electricity generation is as to the environmental impact.

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      They have done this at motorsport events… Putting their lives, the competitors lives and the marshals lives at risk. It’s idiotic

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    Has it increased in size over the last few years? I always felt the venue at tobacco docks was kinda small.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    Their tactics and the fact that a large portion of their funding comes from the granddaughter of an oil tycoon makes it hard to think their goal isn’t to purposely look like jackasses to diminish support for real environmentalism.