Difference is those other networks actually make content thats arguably seen as worth paying for. YouTube recycles user content and barely pays those users for it. Yes you can say that they deserve your money for servers and whatnot, but you can’t compare YouTube with those other services you mentioned and expect people to cry big crocodile tears…
They’re not recycling anything though. They’re hosting it. For 90% of therm they’re not even charging the person to host it.
That’s only possible because of ads, because it’s not out of the kindness of their hearts. If there was not just value but negative value in Youtube, they would just shut Youtube down. Yeah, they make a lot more money than they need to maintain youtube. But they’d probably prefer to put that money towards the things actually making them money.
And yeah, it would be nice if some site existed that wasn’t corporate driven, but most of them either have no content, or are just siphoning off of Youtube’s content anyway.
And yes, you can say Youtube’s (users) content, and it virtually makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. Hosting the content is still required to do.
…That…doesn’t bode well when they already have an alternative revenue option. It sounds like the adblock is hurting their revenue, and the alternative options aren’t making it up.
Like that doesn’t sound like they have a good reason to stop trying.
You will never get the sympathy for YouTube that you’re looking for. Not as long as the ads keep being so blatantly offensive and irrelevant, and while they continue to dangle their power over the users and content creators, who ultimately make them what they are.
No one cares about their hosting fees. You’re right that it’s expensive to keep the necessary servers and bandwidth, but you’re wrong that people will care because of the lack of care YouTube has shown. On the other hand, paying for something like HBO Max, for example, is a thousand times more justifiable. Look at the novel content they actually create. They also host that content, but that’s not why people pay.
I think people go to the ends of the earth to block ads that are offensive or irrelevant. Some people block any ad because of the history of offensiveness and irrelevance that ads from the majority of services have been. Ads can be those things for lots of reasons. Too many, too long, too often repeated, actually offensive, annoying, distracting, insulting to your intelligence, conflict of interest, against the grain of the content they infest, just to name a few… But instead of advancing that front, services like YouTube would rather just cram them down your throat, and then block you if you object. Ultimately YouTube needs users. Nothing works without the users. The ads only even make money because of the users…
They should be giving us massages and making our stay as pleasant as possible… instead they are power-tripping because they think we need their bullshit, but we don’t.
But i’m not being sympathetic, i’m being realistic. I just know the end-point is going to be bad and leave everyone disappointed. Google isn’t going to try less, and none of the alternative sites popping up are remotely able to keep up. Many existed in youtube’s time and either died out or they’re still around and nobody cares.
I’m sure one day youtube will go away and take all the videos of 20 years with it, as well as leave people with nowhere to go just rubbing their heads trying to figure out where their content can go.
I will say though: Youtube needs users. Google doesn’t need users. They can go to any of their other products if they ever determine youtube isn’t worth it.
Difference is those other networks actually make content thats arguably seen as worth paying for. YouTube recycles user content and barely pays those users for it. Yes you can say that they deserve your money for servers and whatnot, but you can’t compare YouTube with those other services you mentioned and expect people to cry big crocodile tears…
They’re not recycling anything though. They’re hosting it. For 90% of therm they’re not even charging the person to host it.
That’s only possible because of ads, because it’s not out of the kindness of their hearts. If there was not just value but negative value in Youtube, they would just shut Youtube down. Yeah, they make a lot more money than they need to maintain youtube. But they’d probably prefer to put that money towards the things actually making them money.
And yeah, it would be nice if some site existed that wasn’t corporate driven, but most of them either have no content, or are just siphoning off of Youtube’s content anyway.
And yes, you can say Youtube’s (users) content, and it virtually makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. Hosting the content is still required to do.
Ads aren’t the only form of revenue for them, and historically, YouTube had been run at a loss for years.
…That…doesn’t bode well when they already have an alternative revenue option. It sounds like the adblock is hurting their revenue, and the alternative options aren’t making it up.
Like that doesn’t sound like they have a good reason to stop trying.
not 90%, 100%. there are no hosting fees on YouTube for anyone. I could see being able to upload content requiring a subscription in future though
You will never get the sympathy for YouTube that you’re looking for. Not as long as the ads keep being so blatantly offensive and irrelevant, and while they continue to dangle their power over the users and content creators, who ultimately make them what they are.
No one cares about their hosting fees. You’re right that it’s expensive to keep the necessary servers and bandwidth, but you’re wrong that people will care because of the lack of care YouTube has shown. On the other hand, paying for something like HBO Max, for example, is a thousand times more justifiable. Look at the novel content they actually create. They also host that content, but that’s not why people pay.
I think people go to the ends of the earth to block ads that are offensive or irrelevant. Some people block any ad because of the history of offensiveness and irrelevance that ads from the majority of services have been. Ads can be those things for lots of reasons. Too many, too long, too often repeated, actually offensive, annoying, distracting, insulting to your intelligence, conflict of interest, against the grain of the content they infest, just to name a few… But instead of advancing that front, services like YouTube would rather just cram them down your throat, and then block you if you object. Ultimately YouTube needs users. Nothing works without the users. The ads only even make money because of the users…
They should be giving us massages and making our stay as pleasant as possible… instead they are power-tripping because they think we need their bullshit, but we don’t.
You’re right, people won’t care.
But i’m not being sympathetic, i’m being realistic. I just know the end-point is going to be bad and leave everyone disappointed. Google isn’t going to try less, and none of the alternative sites popping up are remotely able to keep up. Many existed in youtube’s time and either died out or they’re still around and nobody cares.
I’m sure one day youtube will go away and take all the videos of 20 years with it, as well as leave people with nowhere to go just rubbing their heads trying to figure out where their content can go.
I will say though: Youtube needs users. Google doesn’t need users. They can go to any of their other products if they ever determine youtube isn’t worth it.