• Lt. Worf, son of Mogh@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    1 year ago

    You call it pessimism, I call it realism.

    Says every person with depression ever.

    I agree with the other commenter recommending therapy. When you don’t see it as “life is pain and the future is hopeless”, you might sound less like a scifi villain calling for human extinction.

    • BluJay320
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      1 year ago

      “Existence is suffering” is a foundational tenet for many worldviews and religions, not just antinatalism. Existence is literally the first cause to all suffering - no existence, no suffering.

      Acknowledging that doesn’t make me depressed or pessimistic, it’s just acceptance how things are.

      You’re free to live in whatever fantasy you want, though. That’s your right.

      Also, responding to differing worldviews with “get help” is generally bad form

      • Lt. Worf, son of Mogh@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        Your worldview is literally calling for the extinction of all humans. You need to come back to reality and stop convincing yourself that this is normal or healthy.

        • BluJay320
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yes, it is. And I’m just fine, I prefer not to live in idealistic delusion

          Maybe educate yourself on the actual philosophy

          • Lt. Worf, son of Mogh@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Ah, yes the classic “everyone else who doesn’t subscribe is deluded” echochamber red flag.

            “Voluntary Extinction” is right up there with “flat earthers” and “anti-vax” as the dumbest pseudo-intellectual things I’ve read on the internet.

            • BluJay320
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              ·
              1 year ago

              Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.

              Enjoy your dreamland, and have a nice day

                • BluJay320
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  The fact that you’re equating antinatalism to depression tells me you really don’t understand what you’re talking about.

                • StarkWolf@kbin.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  If you knew and understood what actually goes on in this world, you would be “depressed” regardless of the chemicals in your brain working or not. All the happy pills in the world, and trust me from experience, all the best drugs in the world, would not get rid of genocide, fascism, or a world built upon capitalism, that at its very core is based upon exploitation, subjugation, and oppression of half of the world, and the mass destruction of most of the Earth’s species and the planet itself to fuel the greed and sole benefit of the worlds greatest sociopaths, wherein you happen to be one of the few lucky ones who can live in a tiny bubble where you are completely unaware of the extent of mass suffering and death that is occurring in the neighborhoods you don’t go to and the countries that are too far away for you to care about. If you read through the publicly available documents of what the CIA in the US did in the 20th century alone, you would not think coming to the conclusion that humans as a species are irredeemable could only be the result of a disfunctioning brain. I’m not even an antinatalist, I’m just autistic and study a lot of history.

        • BluJay320
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          Without any sort of guarantee.

          It’s a gamble. Literally gambling with human lives.

          If one never exists, they face neither pleasure nor pain. If one is forced to exist - remember, this is never consensual - then one may experience pleasure and pain, and simply hope that pleasure is more bountiful. Hopes, dreams, goals, ideas that may or may not be met. All of it essentially left to chance. Will their life be pleasurable? Possibly. Will life be painful? Certainly. Suffering is guaranteed. Pleasure is not. Are we to keep forcing others to play, simply in the hope that things work out well for them?

          No. I don’t gamble with lives. Nor should anyone.