I mean, yes, it’s really common, whenever someone mentions vegetarianism or veganism a carnist has to jump in and tell everyone how delicious meat is and how much they enjoy eating meat. Even if no one asked. Even if it’s an explicitly vegan community. Even if there’s no reason to post except to insult and offend vegans. Even if the meme is not about veganism specifically but about factory farming which any sane human being recognizes is both an ethical and environmental disaster.
Carnists just won’t shut up about their moral and dietary preferences.
It’s as if they know there’s no moral justification for killing for pleasure and are so defensive about it that vegans just existing in public demands an aggressive response from them.
I can’t speak for the mod but I (probably) wouldn’t ban carnists for being carnists. It’s not like fascism or racism, where open fascists and racists are a relatively small percentage of society and banning them deprives them of a recruiting platform. The vast majority of English-speaking people eat meat. “Lol bacon is good” is a typical response to anything vegan in American society. And it’s a false consciousness response - people say things like that to avoid thinking about the reality of carnism and its concordant factory farming.
And as you noticed, this is a pretty inactive instance. There’s not a thriving community of solarpunk vegans (yet) and there’s no serious debate or activism or community building to be disrupted by troll posts.
So I’d prefer to let people post those “lol bacon is good” comments, take the opportunity to ask why they found the need to post them, and maybe open some people’s minds and educate them, rather than banning them.
Removed by mod
in a community specifically for vegans
I mean, yes, it’s really common, whenever someone mentions vegetarianism or veganism a carnist has to jump in and tell everyone how delicious meat is and how much they enjoy eating meat. Even if no one asked. Even if it’s an explicitly vegan community. Even if there’s no reason to post except to insult and offend vegans. Even if the meme is not about veganism specifically but about factory farming which any sane human being recognizes is both an ethical and environmental disaster.
Carnists just won’t shut up about their moral and dietary preferences.
It’s as if they know there’s no moral justification for killing for pleasure and are so defensive about it that vegans just existing in public demands an aggressive response from them.
This is your community you know. You can ban people who are being obviously derisive of the people this community is ostensibly made for.Edit: assumed you were the mod as you were the main poster. Mod seemingly inactive?
I can’t speak for the mod but I (probably) wouldn’t ban carnists for being carnists. It’s not like fascism or racism, where open fascists and racists are a relatively small percentage of society and banning them deprives them of a recruiting platform. The vast majority of English-speaking people eat meat. “Lol bacon is good” is a typical response to anything vegan in American society. And it’s a false consciousness response - people say things like that to avoid thinking about the reality of carnism and its concordant factory farming.
And as you noticed, this is a pretty inactive instance. There’s not a thriving community of solarpunk vegans (yet) and there’s no serious debate or activism or community building to be disrupted by troll posts.
So I’d prefer to let people post those “lol bacon is good” comments, take the opportunity to ask why they found the need to post them, and maybe open some people’s minds and educate them, rather than banning them.