On lemmy.world I posted a comment on how liberals use ‘tankie’ as an invective to shut down dialogue and received tons of hateful replies. I tried to respond in a rational way to each. Someone’s said ‘get educated’ I responded ‘Im reading Norman Finkelstein’s I’ll burn that bridge when I get there’ and tried to keep it civil.

They deleted every comment I made and banned me. Proving my point, they just want to shut down dialogue. Freedom of speech doesn’t existing in those ‘totalitarian’ countries right? But in our ‘enlightened’ western countries we just delete you.

  • FoxAndKitten@lemmy.world
    6·
    2 years ago

    There’s a lot - it’s the default organization structure for humans.

    Friend groups are more often than not anarchist. Valve (the makers of steam) is designed as an anarchist company where workers freely start and join projects (they’re not the only ones with a similar structure, but their employee handbook is an interesting read). The fediverse is generally anarchist

    There’s very few pure ideological systems out there - certainly there’s never been a pure capitalist or pure dictatorship. There have been pure anarchist communities out there, because it’s not rule by consent or through will of the people, all it takes is people coexisting with an aversion to hierarchy

    • lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
      19·
      2 years ago

      Friend groups are more often than not anarchist. Valve (the makers of steam) is designed as an anarchist company where workers freely start and join projects

      Gotta break some myths here because despite Valve making some of my favourite games of all time I can’t let you call them anarchist.

      • There is very much a hierarchy between workers since they have a ladder scoring system that gets you fired when you’re underperforming
      • They only recruit industry veterans, you can’t enter Valve if you are a beginner, they are not inclusive
      • They have a CEO who owns yachts and shit meaning there is still exploitation even if he is a funny dude and not a corporate ghoul
      • FoxAndKitten@lemmy.world
        4·
        2 years ago

        Oh for sure with valve - they’re still a company and they’re certainly capitalist, which basically means they’ll get more cold and ruthless, and it means they’re making money for someone else through their labors

        That’s still anarchist though - no ruler, not no rules. They don’t get told what to work on or how - the threat of getting let go (with a reasonable chunk of severance) doesn’t make it not anarchist. Neither does the fact they don’t get to keep their profits

        You can mix and match systems - you can have pure anarcho-capitalism or anarcho-communism, although by operating in a predetermined framework it’s not really pure anarchism

        The ranking system doesn’t take much away though, team roles are aren’t assigned, they’re ad-hoc. And with software we don’t have the same hierarchy within a team unless there’s a massive gap in skills/experience. You can’t code what you don’t understand after all - leadership is more about communication. You might have an architect designing the big picture and a team lead coordinating, but even in strict chains of command, programmers usually write tasks as a group then choose their task from what needs doing and what they feel confident in

        But anyways, it might’ve been transformed to be more corporate over the years (I dug into all this a decade ago), but it was certainly designed to be anarchistic - that doesn’t mean good, not exploitative, in any way fair or equal… Just that the group functions through the individuals autonomously working towards the groups goals