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    going out of business after being established 140 years ago and they’re calling that failure. some people just can’t pat themselves on the back huh

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      To be fair, they probably inherited the place and got to be the lucky person it closed down under, which probably doesn’t feel great.

      At least, it’d raise some eyebrows if its had the same owner since 1883.

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        Inherit a business that been successful for over a hundred years, and be the one to fuck it up so badly they have to close it down? Maybe they should feel bad.

        I have no sympathy for anyone inheriting entire businesses.

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          Could’ve been a long time coming. Could’ve been that the previous owners were unethical and the current ones were not. It could be any number of things. It’s not necessarily as simple as them “fucking up” and having to shut down.

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          something something no wrong moves and still lose

          There’s a reason that, were it ever to happen, I’d stop at SVP level and not jump to C level.

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            So that you can get paid less and still have to shoulder all the blame?

            C levels don’t have to take responsibility except when it makes them look good.

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              in my practical experience, thats not the case. it may be the case at $10B+ companies, but at <$99MM companies it’s still much safer to draw a salary.

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                What a strange statement.

                $10B+ companies, but at <$99MM

                What about companies between $100m and $9.99b?

                it’s still much safer to draw a salary.

                But ceos do pay themselves salaries.

                This barely even makes sense and I really don’t get what point you’re trying to make.

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                  I was just casually commenting that I don’t want to be in charge of a company because I’d rather the risk be on someone else’s shoulder, and then when it was implied CEOs take no risk I clarified that the type of immune to failure CEO you’re talking about are different from the average business.

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        I ran a DnD campaign where an important shop was under the same owner for over 1000 years, a friendly copper dragon shapeshifted into a halfling, who discovered trading with adventurers was the best way to amass a hoard, they would go all over the world finding interesting things that they have no idea of the true value of, could you believe they’d trade this neat spider statuette that may or may not be mildly cursed for a boring old ring of protection because it “has no practical use” and it “makes them dream of the whisperings of elder gods”?

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      Just a pet peeve of mine, it’s like complaining the Jedi couldn’t stop Palpatine and that means they’re all idiots with a silly religion or something.

      They were the guardians of a multispecies Republic for ten THOUSAND years, and they curb stomped the Sith Empire everytime it tried to start shit. They clearly knew what they were doing.

      What was the alternative? Seizing direct control of the government? Executing every Senator that looked a little corrupt?

      Palatine played a game they couldn’t counter without destroying themselves in the process. Sometimes you just lose…

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        Sometimes you can make all the right decisions and still lose. That’s not called failure, that’s called life.

        • Captain Picard
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        was it 10 thousand years now? in the movies they alternate between saying “a thousand years” or “a thousand generations.” i mean, either way i think your point stands, but still

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          Disney has canonized the Rakatan Empire so for now it’s assumed all the Old Republic works and timelines are canon(ish).

          The Old Republic was actually 25,000 years old, I misremembered, but there was a period about a thousand years before the OT it was dissolved and then a different Republic was formed that… did everything exactly the same?

          The result is people largely ignoring that stumble in its timeline.

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              Sorta. The Last Jedi apparently had an easter egg reference, a kyber crystal he used, and the Rakata and their empire are specifically referenced in Andor.

              Which is a small continuity problem since it was a literal plot point of Kotor that it has been so long the galaxy had mostly forgotten about them, but whatever, the current consensus is Revan’s general story is canon if not necessarily specific events from the games.

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                Flavor text on an easter egg item doesn’t break canon, it’s really just the devs speaking directly to the player

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                  If there’s one thing Star Wars does well, it’s applying a history to every single fuckin thing on screen. In this case the multiple references to the Rakatans makes it fairly likely Darth Revan will be outright canonized eventually, especially because there just really isn’t a point to the Rakata without his plotline.

                  Like, what, we’re supposed to give a shit they maybe made Centerpoint Station?

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        But the Jedi did fail under Yoda & Windu – that’s kind of the point of the trilogy, they became too arrogant in their peace.