• poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago

    They should just let this mess quietly die and join Intel with their attempt at a cross-vendor standard.

    • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      AMD has the best valued CPUs on the market for consumer and DC for at least the next few years, years ahead on APUs (Phoenix runs native GPU speeds on die), and just jumped Nvidia to datacenter market with NPUs on their server class chips, making that an INSANELY great value. Also forgot AMD is in all the major game consoles out in the world aside from Switch, so they have that base as well. They’re in the best possible position for years to come versus Intel or NVidia.

      Now what are you going on about?

      • giacomo@lemm.eeEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        He was on about ROCm, not amd performance or market share. But thanks for the fanboy post.

        • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Not a fanboy post at all. The number of devices that AMD has out in the world is just massive. Why they’d “give up” as OP suggested is beyond me.

          • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
            5·
            1 year ago

            ROCm is a software that AMD developed and which is universally acknowledged to be quite buggy and far behind its equivalent by Nvidia called CUDA. My comment had nothing to do with AMD’s hardware or marketshare.

            Everyone, including AMD, would be better off if Intel and AMD were working together on an open and cross-vendor standard to counter Nvidia’s CUDA.

              • giacomo@lemm.eeEnglish
                5·
                1 year ago

                we are not arguing, you are just going on and on about amd market share when no one was talking about that. what are you on about?

                • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  3·
                  1 year ago

                  The number of devices in use out in the world is a direct correlation to how useful a project like ROCm or CUDA is/could be. More devices means devs are more likely to utilize a specific language or library for a specific use. ROCm is open source and attempting to gain more ground simply by expanding to more devices which are already out there. My response to OP is just illustrating that fact.

                  Example: Nvidia got an early foothold in the AI/ML game in the datacenter because they were first to platform traction with the CUDA toolkit and inference libraries. It’s horrible to use, but is useful. AMD is now trying to catch up to that by deploying alternative hardware and software that covers most of the same use-case, plus they now have APU and FPGA devices that Nvidia does not. That’s the tldr.

  • MycoPete@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago

    It’s only a matter of time. Just like physx and any other Nvidia gimmick, AMD will catch up and offer it for a fraction of the price.

  • gerryflap@feddit.nlEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago

    Good. For my last GPU is was forced to go with Nvidia since I needed CUDA. ROCm was useless for consumer GPU’s back then. Support has gotten better since from what I’ve seen, so hopefully they continue and my next GPU will be team red again.

      • InverseParallax@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Yes but barely, amd had a trash software group which has gotten much better.

        But the nvidia stack is still sophisticated beyond belief, Cuda is still the foundation and the amount of effort nvidia put in is incredible.

        They are modern day robber barons but they built a beautiful stack.

    • Chobbes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Right! My thought was “fucking better be!” AMD lagging behind on general purpose compute is super disappointing.

  • bioemerl@kbin.social
    5·
    1 year ago

    I had to abandon a project recently because AMDs shitty software would refuse to install opencl for one of their integrated graphics chips.

    Every time I’ve tried to use their subpar hardware it’s been met by exponentially more shitty subpar software. If I were in any business making decisions with real money I’d avoid AMD like a plague

    • MycoPete@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      I have a MacBook in my closet I can’t use at all because of an Nvidia integrated GPU. I’ve had nothing but problems with their shitty software too. Never had a single problem since I switched to AMD, and it was wayyyy cheaper. Your issue sounds like PEBCAK to me.

      You know opencl AMD installations have problems if you have previously installed Nvidia software? So it sounds like your experience with AMD may have been soured by NVIDIA actually, and then you went out and gave them more money.