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      Haha yes also incredibly that they had to point out this sentence “Tech companies have said scanning messages and end-to-end encryption are fundamentally incompatible.”

      Very astonishing how there are some fundamental lacks of understanding from politicians advertising this. Or all on purpose

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        Tech companies have said scanning messages and end-to-end encryption are fundamentally incompatible.

        That’s not a given. Imagine messaging is like you trying to pass a note to a classmate in school. End-to-end encryption is like using a cypher based on your friend’s social security number, crumpling up the note, and then shoving the note up Tommy’s ass for them to deliver it to your buddy. Pretty standard note-passing stuff.

        Adding the ability for the government to scan your messages is like being that kid who can’t write without mouthing or whispering what you’re writing. Then the teacher says “got it! Don’t worry, I definitely definitely won’t discuss this in the beak room with the other teachers!” And then gives you a big reassuring wink and a smile while you shove the note up Tommy’s ass.

        See how everyone gets to have fun in the second scenario? The best part is knowing that no teacher ever has ever done anything bad. The end.

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    Do they want to lose access to… everything on the internet? Because this is how you lose access to everything.

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      Haha yes definitely something to follow. I’m looking forward to lists of companies that left UK because of this (as announced) and lists of companies that stay and thus prove that their end-to-end encryption isn’t a real one

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        I keep forgetting that the UK left the European Union. When I originally read that title I was like how the fuck could that happen? Oh Brexit. That is going to set them back decades.

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          Don’t you worry, EU votes on killing end-to-end encryption in private messaging next week.

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        The common thing here is conservatism. It has no borders and thrives on hatred, which is fundamentally human. It will alway exist as an evil. It just varies on how much power they have and is under slightly different names, but they have a common thread of beliefs that always come back. No country or person is immune to this as morally superior they think they are.

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      I don’t get it - where did all these idiots come from in the western developed worlds? It’s like half have forgotten history, and are hell bent on sending us into this fascist dystopia where we’ve forgotten that freedom comes with a price. Nobody likes the darker side of the internet, but punishing regular users and businesses isn’t the answer. Everyone loves to pick on the USA, and we deserve it, but it’s happening seemingly everywhere.

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        Where there is money to be made, and influence to be pedaled, Capitalism will find the person to do it for them. If you are doing it because you are evil you are a conservative, if you are doing it because you think you are actually helping the children, you are a liberal. But the outcomes are the same either way.

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    " Safety Bill " the fucking irony of it Tories making sure we’re the biggest clown show in the world. Well time to shutdown all those https end points and spool up jhonlewi5.co.uk to my offshore account.

    “If companies do not comply, media regulator Ofcom will be able to issue fines of up to 18 million pounds ($22.3 million) or 10% of their annual global turnover.” Yet thier mates can quite happly steal tax money under PPE contracts and pump literal shit into our waterways.

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    So did Signal and others actually leave the UK market or did they fold like a wet paper napkin like we all knew they would?

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      By the looks of it e2ee isn’t actually banned, and if e.g. Signal says “we can’t technically scan people’s messages” then they’re given a pass… maybe. The Reuters article reads like the UK gvmt are going to be going after more Facebook-like media first, rather than encrypted private messages.

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    If governments the world over were as obsessed with solving things like the climate crisis and cost of living as they are with undermining encryption techs, we’d be living in a utopia by now.

    They tried this here in Australia, luckily for us it got voted down. Iirc there’s been other countries trying the same BS

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      What? It didn’t get voted down, it literally passed and is law under the Telco Act. The fact we passed it gave the UK ammunition to do the same thing.

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        it is my understanding that our sucky Assistance and Access Act, is fundamentally different, it compels developers provide back doors where it will not systemically undermine the system. To my understanding the UK one requests “breaking” e2ee in its entirely - which is why services like Signal were considering full exiting the region?

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    Earlier this month, junior minister Stephen Parkinson appeared to concede ground, saying in parliament’s upper chamber that Ofcom would only require them to scan content where “technically feasible”.

    Big if true.

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      It depends how they interpret “technically feasible”. It’s technically feasible to force everyone to compromise their encryption.

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    So, looking at this article, there is no mention that they made end-to-end encryption illegal.

    Tech companies have said scanning messages and end-to-end encryption are fundamentally incompatible.

    Earlier this month, junior minister Stephen Parkinson appeared to concede ground, saying in parliament’s upper chamber that Ofcom would only require them to scan content where “technically feasible”.

    So they would basically be scanning information WITHOUT end-to-end encryption

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    The thumbnail for this article really bothers me. They just copy pasted the same string of 1’s and 0’s throughout the entire screen and colored it lime green on a black background for that Matrix effect.

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      I thought it was apropos… just as fake as the encryption solution now enshrined in law in the UK.