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      I like IPAs and I’m secure enough to not be bothered by the mockery my basic brothers and I face online.

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      I don’t care what other people drink. In fact I love it when people show me their favorite drinks. Even if I don’t like it I enjoy the experience of something new. I get bored very easily.

      That being said, I moved to the Pacific Northwest a few years ago and it seems like local breweries only make IPAs. They’ll have like eight local or inhouse brews and 7 will be IPAs. I just miss the variety I used to be able to find in other parts of the country. It also seems a little lazy and uncreative on the brewery’s side.

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    I’m German. I look down upon these pesants. The best beer is dark and unfiltered. Anything else cannot compare.

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      I’ve had your beer while in your country. Much respect and all given the history and contributions to beer over all, but after a week…it got boring.

      I’m happy to be a peasant with never ending variety of styles and variations within styles without being hamstrung by some unimaginative and restrictive laws.

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        There’s variety too, you just didn’t get to see it during your stay. The laws are now much more liberal than they used to be.

        But yeah, when you go to a basic place, many German beers have a similar character I would say. Normally there’s just the difference between light, dark, red, weizen and then the mixed ones.

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      I never liked beer until I tried it in Germany. I’m here now on vacation, a Radler is probably my preference just for sweet tooth but even the basics go down nicely.

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      Dark beer is for winter and autumn. IPA is for spring, summer, and not going off on a sea voyage to the colonies.

      Edit: also when I was in Germany I mostly drank white wine. Germany is the only country that produces palatable white wine, whereas good beer can be had in many countries.

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        Germany is the only country that produces palatable white wine

        Wow wow wow, take it easy there, them are some fighting words.

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      We should aspire to be friends with all beers. Let us appreciate all styles for the unique qualities they bring to the table.

      Except sours, those are gross

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    I don’t get it.

    I don’t even like IPAs all that much.

    But like… Pumpkin Spice is a seasonal artificial flavor that is I think annoying to people because it’s made its way into everything from marshmallows to crackers to milk.

    IPA is a style of beer. That’s it.

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      IPAs don’t even taste the same, people just think of the (ex: Sierra Nevada) hoppy taste and assume it’s all like that.

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      I don’t know if it’s like this where you are, but in Scandinavia if you like beer but don’t like IPAs, you’re shit out of luck for like the last five years at least. It has completely taken over the beer aisles at like 70 % of the offering. As someone who hates that bitter taste with a passion, the fact that it makes the selection of beers that I enjoy so much smaller, means it’s akin to how I imagine pumpkin spice taking over in the US during fall, except it isn’t just seasonal.

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        That sucks. It was like that here in the US about 5 years ago with IPAs. Every micro brewery made like 10 IPAs and nothing else. They are still the most prevalent style but there is a noticeable shift toward making lagers or less hoppy ales the past few years and it’s been a really nice change.

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          I hope we’ll see that soon as well. I’ve been mostly into malty, full-bodied varieties, and recently also sour beers and gose. Those have started to appear in stores, but not reliably. It feels like they’re testing the waters, and are cycling through brands quickly, so once you find a favorite, it’s already gone. Hopefully it’ll stabilize with a decent selection of all types.

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      They’re both popular, and something that you can just not buy if you don’t like them, but people like to complain about because they see the popular thing around, and it bothers them.

      Also, pumpkin spice doesn’t have to be artificial. It’s just the spices found in pumpkin pie. It’s usually just cinnamon, clove, nutmeg and ginger.

      It can be artificial, but it’s like complaining that “apple” is a seasonal artificial flavor.

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    I’m German too, while I usually prefer southern german beer with a strong wheat, malt and yeast flavour I also occasionally like to explore other flavours like IPA or more exotic ones from different countries. I mean, drink what you like or don’t drink at all (which might be better, health-wise). Gates open, come on in.

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          Never said it was anything special. But it’s largely available (even in neighbor countries) and I do confirm everyone feels good after three of them ;)

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      It can be quickly summarized to the line in the article, “marketers have an insatiable appetite for turning human enjoyment into target-based profit”. Couple that with the fact that females tend to receive more ridicule for their consumption habits, and you’ve got this article.

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    if it isnt brewed in a monestary in belgium whats even the point #notlikeotherguys

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    I’ve never really considered hops to be an interesting flavor. It’s just… flat and bitter to me.

    I truly don’t understand why so many people love IPAs, or try to sneak extreme hoppiness into other beer styles. (An IPA with fruit juice is not a saison! And a 70 IBU “kolsch” is a war crime!)

    As a person who prefers the complex, bright and earthy flavors from grains and yeast, getting face-fucked at the end of every sip by a one-note weed pine cone is so disappointing.

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      one-note weed pine cone

      Single greatest description of the taste of IPA I’ve ever read.

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      I am not an IPA fan for the same reasons. The problem are the Brewers thinking they can just add any old hop into the mix and expect it to taste good. Then you have the consumers freaking out over a 120 IBU DIPA even though, on average, the human pallet is unable to taste anything beyond 70 IBU with an average threshold of a out 4 IBU.

      Don’t get me wrong, I have had some great IPAs, but the places I’ve enjoyed them were places that knew what they were doing. Barely any bitterness and all the hop flavor and aromas.

      I used to work as a brewer where the owner wouldn’t let us make any recipes of our own. All the recipes that he made us use, regardless of the style of beer, had an unforgivable amount of hops to it. The stout? 80 IBU. Fuck you, Dave.

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        I’m not a big beer drinker, but there are few things as disappointing as finding a bar that serves stout on tap, then discovering it’s been all hopped up.

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        Jesus.

        If you see Dave around, tell him I think his management style is as unpalatable as his beer.

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      I’m the opposite. I prefer a pale ale over an IPA, but recently I found hoppy larger and it is great. I find straight larger so tasteless most of the time.

      Though if I am only drinking 1 or 2 beers for the night then I would choose a dark beer.

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      I truly don’t understand why so many people love IPAs

      Flavor nuance. I don’t like hopsy beer myself, but there’s a LOT of different profiles out there. I’ve even found a few IPAs I liked.

      As a person who prefers the complex, bright and earthy flavors from grains and yeast, getting face-fucked at the end of every sip by a one-note weed pine cone is so disappointing.

      That I’ll agree with. Not a lot of drinkers respect the mashbill anymore.

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      I don’t have a refined palette, and I like fairly hoppy beers. It has to have a good flavor to it though. If it’s made hoppy for the sake of IBUs, then it’s probably bad. Like joke hot sauces are disgusting, but there are some that are delicious but really painful for me to eat, even one bite.

      Older IPA hops like cascade are great but only slightly hop heavy with their classic hop flavors. The hops used more recently (I think citra and mosaic?) have great flavors when pushed to high IBUs.

      Hops have amazing range. Fuggles smell like dirt. Lemondrop has a strong citrus smell.

      About half of beer variety is from hops. Unless your talking about Belgians. Then it’s all yeast.

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        While making my earlier comment, I actually looked it up to see if maybe there was something unusual about my perception of hops, but didn’t want to overload folks with info. It seems that some people are more sensitive to bitter tastes, such as those in hops, and some folks can’t taste them at all. It’s like if the whole cilantro/soap thing were less a dichotomy, and more of a spectrum. (And I’m one of the people to whom cilantro tastes like soap.)

        That’s not to say I don’t recognize or value the contribution of hops to beer, but hops aren’t the primary driver of most beers flavor profile, nor should they be. In most beer styles, the bitterness of the hops are used to balance the sweetness of the malt so the beer doesn’t taste like syrup. This allows other flavors in the malt to come out, or flavors from the yeast to say hi.

        For me it’s a very fine line. I think I’m more sensitive than the average person.
        If the bitterness does more than balance, then it dominates all other flavors, including any flavors within the hops themselves. It’s just bitter, flat, and tastes like how bad weed smells.
        I don’t believe it’s a matter of unrefined taste. I can talk to you all day about floral notes of lightly roasted grains, the heavier flavors of darker roasted malts, or what kind of funk a yeasty beer has.
        But hops. Too much, and it’s just one flavor for me. I think the only time I’ve been able to enjoy a hop’s flavor was when I ate a fresh one on a brewery tour.