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    What the fuck did you just fucking say about America, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about America over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” meme was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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    American: makes any sort of joke about any country, even if it’s the smallest most unoffending thing

    Person from that country : ur children get shot in schools

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        Okay, but you do realize that comeback makes you look bad right, not us? No matter your reasons or intentions, you are mocking children being murdered. Like in the example below:

        American: lol British people eat spotted dicks.

        A brit: lol American children get shot at school.

        Wow. What a zinger, you really got me with that one, a fool I was to not recognize the comedy of children dying horrifically.

        (To be clear, I didn’t come up with that example randomly. I’ve seen the mocking of spotted dick be met with “lol child murder” more than once)

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          They’re mocking us for letting children get murdered. Don’t get all civility politics up in here if you can’t even grasp the concept of the jab.

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            Is spotted dick political? I suppose us americans should have known it was a contentious subject that warrants jokes about child murder

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            It’s a fucking ignorant ass jab directed at the wrong people. The majority of Americans support stricter gun laws, it is NOT the common mans fault that our centuries old political system is set up in a way that a minority party can have so much influence.

            Like I already said, no matter the reasons or intentions, they ARE mocking children being murdered. Maybe it’s “lol you guys let children die lol” instead of “lol child death lol”, but either way children are dead and they are laughing. Meanwhile, the majority of Americans are horrified by it and pissed off nothing is being done by our government to stop it.

            It’s also just incredibly thin-skinned. Really, you’re gonna get so offended over a joke about spotted dick that your only response is “you guys have school shootings lol”.

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              The majority of Americans support stricter gun laws, it is NOT the common mans fault that our centuries old political system is set up in a way that a minority party can have so much influence.

              I didn’t personally throw any tea into the Boston harbor but you better believe I’m going to use that as ammo against a brit if I feel like it. Personal agency has no meaning when talking about entire countries.

              Civility politics is cringe as fuck. Get over yourself and threaten to liberate their country instead of whining about people being mean on the internet.

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              Then how about you do something about it instead of complaining that other people point it out?

              It is not like any other developed country has that problem.

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              Either everything is OK to joke about or nothing is. You can have your personal line you won’t cross but don’t project that onto other people.

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          Seems like the comeback is working since it gets Yanks flustered and writing paragraphs of text as a reply lol

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        You should be ashamed of yourself. Many wonderful people live in this country. We have so much to do - and yes, we are plagued by many horrors - but we persevere.

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          Instead of persevering, how about you fix the problem that no other developed country has?

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            What do you want me to do? Wave my hands and say some magic words and presto have everything be fixed? It doesn’t fucking work that way.

            I do what I can within my means. I vote every election for candidates supporting gun and mental healthcare reforms, I do my best to educate my less politically aware friends, I support activist organizations, etc… I’m fucking sorry if I’m not personally out there torching politicians houses or whatever the fuck you expect me to do, but I’ve got people that depend on me not being in fucking prison.

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        Sure, maybe it’s crass for me to mock you for something so traumatic, but on the plus side I have never personally murdered a child so I think I’m doing just fine.

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        At least over here we do have some school shootings even with stricter European gun control laws. It‘s just not as prevalent as in the US.

        I guess sometimes overly criticising the US can be seen as some kind of envy. The freedom we admire but the shortcomings we don’t want to have or admit. It‘s just that this extreme bipartisanship and reluctance to talk civilly with each other is disheartening to see.

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    Huh? Americans are like the most willing to admit their country is shit of like anywhere of the Lemmy audience… America fucking sucks, sign American. I had some dude from Pakistan super mad at me for saying women are second class citizens there the other day. Apparently they treat women super well, according to that angry guy anyway. I’m still pretty sure they don’t.

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      As always, these things can’t be generalised. Every country has people that talk about their own problems, and every country has “patriots” that will deny anything is happening. There are just a lot of Americans on the internet, so people notice those who relentlessly praise America more.

      After all, few countries literally ingrain “[country] exceptionalism” into their population in their school system. Many Americans, while thinking they are pointing out problems, still say “but it’s still better than almost any other country at X”.

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        Romania doesn’t ingrain Romanian exceptionalism, but it does keep a lot of the REALLY horrible things Romanians have done out of the history classes.

        Starting soon, the Romanian holocaust and communist period are going to be taught in high school history classes. AUR (basically our Republican party) is completely flipping their lid right now. They’re a small party, but very loud and aggressively ignorant.

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      Instead of “thinking something is true about an other country” why don’t you research the topic? Laws are easy to find.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_related_laws_in_Pakistan

      While yes, there were some Sharia laws back in the 1980’s, many recent laws in the last 20 years have been giving more rights to women.

      And that is the problem with many of you Americans, you read something online once about an other country or hear it on one of your news stations, and you instantly believe it without ever checking if it is factual or not.

      The same type of people exist in other countries of course, but the blatant ignorance of Americans about other countries is staggering.

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        XD ah yes, legally it’s the same, so that’s how it shakes out on the ground for sure!

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      Yeah. as an American I shit on America more than anyone. I got no idea what Op is talking abot.

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    American folks want to poke fun at other countries? I say no problem, break a leg! Actually please don’t because it’d probably bankrupt you.

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    I haven’t encountered Americans getting mad over that but what I have encountered is them thinking everything involves the US, especially lately. For example people claiming the Ukraine - Russia war is a proxy war between the US and Russia instead or that NATO = US. Like chill, your country is not relevant to everything in the world.

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    This is the case for every country. You just see it with the US a lot more since it of course has the biggest footprint on the English-language side of the internet.

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      Not even close. Also doesn’t help that 'muricans have a very distorted view on how their country is perceived

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        I think most of us on the internet hear about it constantly and it’s pretty hard not to understand how we are perceived.

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            Pushy, ignorant, reactionary, racist, isolationist, nationalist. Stick our noses into the matters of other countries where we don’t belong. Assume everything is centered around us. War/military happy. Arrogant. Loud.

            Not sure if I’m missing any, but these are the prevailing things I see when people are talking about the US and the people who live here.

            What is hard is that there are of course people (many people, even) that match one or multiple of those descriptions. But the same as it is silly to generalize all of Europe (or even any one European country), it is silly to generalize all Americans.

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        According to one source, the only media that for a long time made it into the states is media that the US government approves of. I could go into detail about it, but it shows up quite prominently in this video.

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      I think other countries are a lot more open to self deprecation as part of their humour / culture. Not saying there aren’t some examples of this in America, it just doesn’t seem to be as prevalent as in British comedy for example.

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    National boundaries just divide workers to obscure the fact that they have more in common with each other than with the ruling classes.

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    It usually doesn’t bother me unless it’s something like this

    American- criticizes something foreign

    Every single reply to that comment- “School shootings!! Hahaha!! Dead kids!!! Hehehehe!!”

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      We have other things you can criticize! Like the fact people will give you unsweetened tea with ice then say you can have some sugar packets!

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      Or when they extropolate from America the country being shit, to every individual American being shit for having the audacity to have been born here.

      Most of us would also rather it wasn’t like this, but our families, friends, and livelihoods are here, so generally speaking it’s not practical to just up and leave. And our political system is to broken for us to really fix via voting

      Trash on the country all you want, I’ll join in with you - but don’t blame the folks who are just trying to live the best we can in this fucked up country

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      This recently

      • French people rude. Haha yeah.
      • Greek people cheap. Okay you got us.
      • Americans so fucking stupid. Hah wait. That’s it? That’s the joke?

      This I don’t understand. Where is this coming from and who honestly would be okay with being called a big dumb dildo and laugh along like it’s such a well known fact about their country? We’re a lot of things, act like we own the world and everyone owes us money and gratitude, eat like shit while letting everyone know how to be healthy, use little creamer cups instead of cream. We’re not idiots.

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    As others have said, we often make fun of ourselves. On these platforms, the liberal side of America is very vocal about the conservative side of America. Healthcare, guns, cost of living, etc. are something we’re constantly being made fun of (often from ourselves).

    If you’ve experienced pushback, it’s likely because it gets stale as a subject. We know our country has problem; most of us feel powerless to change it.

    Maybe that’s what happens when you have this much diversity in a country. We’re not like the French who can all unify and protest when needed.

    edit: Rereading this, it makes it sound like I think diversity is a bad thing. Didn’t mean to imply that, its just that we’re so different its harder to unify.

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    Americans do a lot of stupid things, but they are most likely to be self critical in this space. I think this meme should talk about Western Europe instead, because they have many problems, but they are so often never willing to accept criticism. They’re quick to call the US racist, but in my experience, Europe has so much racism it’s crazy it’s viewed as this anti racist place.

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      I (a US citizen) literally didn’t get a job in Germany because one member on the team objected because I didn’t speak German yet. The company is “English first” and I worked in the US division previously. So yeah, Europeans are certainly as capable of being racist. And they didn’t even try to hide it!

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          I see you deal in absolutes. The person wanted a fluent German speaker despite being an English first company. Put it together in your head.

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        Yeah, it’s racist to hire another more qualified candidate that can speak multiple languages in a setting that would benefit from that skill…

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          Idk about OP, but from my experience, you can speak German perfectly correctly, but have an accent, and that will make your job search many times harder, because they know you’re not “German”. I highly doubt this is about skill.

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      I’m not sure what are you talking about. I’m Spanish and the first people to criticize Spain is Spanish people. Probably you’ve never even heard of all the problems our country has. Unemployment, corruption, house okupation, lots of small crime, mafia related crime for all the drugs trying to enter Europe, lots of immigration as Spain is one of the doors to Europe… I can go on. For all of these there’s a lot of debate and not much being done so far…

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    As an American you can make fun of America all you want. It sucks here.

    The only Europeans I’ve had a problem with are the Danes. They have absolutely no sense of humor.

    Or was it the Swedes? I don’t know. I mean they’re right there together. They’re basically the same people right?

    Hehehehehehe