It’s a nice shot regardless of the implications.
Oh look, traitors.
No actually. They’re doing their jobs and obeying lawful orders.
That looks hella dystopian
Traitors and also shows when we have storm disasters and need help it was wasted on this.
Looks like North-Korea…
but where were they on J6 huh
Probably in high school as they’re young boots.
All these people they keep photographing look quite displeased.
Not displeased enough to not be there.
You mean not displeased enough to get kicked out of the service and irreparably destroy their futures.
Yep. I used to work in D.C. and literally put my money where my mouth is on this one, so yep, that’s exactly what I mean.
What does working in D.C. have to do with lawful military orders?
“I just joined for the free college and cheap health insurance but now they got me defending a facist regime”
That’s probably not far off from their cadences 😂. “I joined up to get college for free. Now they got me in a fascist regime.” That flows a bit better IMO.
Why does this seem like step one in Trump’s ‘I’m not leaving at the end of my term’ plan?
It’s more like step one hundred.
Because he incited an insurrection the last time he didn’t want to leave at the end of his term. There’s no way he’ll give it up this time.
Don’t forget the false slates
“Just following orders”
Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials it was determined that the “just following orders” excuse was in fact, not valid; and that someone always ought to disobey their superiors when that goes against liberty.
Is that fun fact applicable to soldiers just standing around doing nothing?
If you think someone can opt out of responsibility for partaking in repression, then I got bad news for you, yes.
You think soldiers can just ignore lawful orders without severe repercussions? You can sit on your smug high horse when they start beating up innocent civilians.
Yes, they can. I served. You can disobey illegal orders. If you partake, there is no excuse, and you could be charged for being an accessory after the fact.
You’ve no clue what an illegal order is. Standing around and providing security is not an illegal order. You should know that.
Listen, I hate the orange shitstain as much as the next guy, but he hasn’t issued an illegal order nor are they following one.
This is why I can’t stand leftists as much as I can’t stand right-wingers. You’re all so disingenuous and always argue in bad faith, shame on you!
You’ll end up doing more damage to your movement than any fascist fuck could ever.
Only 177 people were judged in the Nuremberg trials, though. Barely a few dozens executed.
Vast majority of soldiers and civilians that were “just following orders” were indeed not condemned by their actions. At least not by any judge.
Which goes to show it didn’t go as far as it could’ve.
They might indeed call it unrealistic to actually go on and prosecute all (and reasonably so given that recovery was key), but at least most of the top and key individuals should’ve gotten further consequences. Werner von Braun got off light.
There’s much the USSR did terribly, but at least it was thorough with its treatment of Nazis after the war. That said, at the end of day, anarchocommunism >>>> state & surveillance capitalism. Stalin still allied with Hitler.
That’s exactly why I posted that.
I think that’s unfair. Imagine being an impoverished American and one of your only options to afford a college education and healthcare is to join the National Guard, an organization that is rarely activated, and when they are, it’s often to actually help people during things like natural disasters. So you join, you take advantage of the benefits and can actually afford to start a family.
Then all of the sudden, you’re stuck in this situation. Leaving will get you a dishonorable discharge, stripping you and your family of healthcare. Getting another job will be difficult. Or you can just clench your teeth and maliciously comply by waffling on your responsibilities
I think it’s unfair to have troops deployed in Washington DC. They took a gamble by joining and I can empathize with that. But them complying is furthering the fascist agenda.
Because saying no when something isn’t just is the right thing to do.
People used to have principles that they just would not break, despite the consequences.
Are we sure that’s D.C.? Looks like the Pentagon (which is across the river in Virginia).
Its Union Station in DC. I’m sure. Source: I live here.
What is it like on a day to day basis? Do you see the presence every where you go? Are people talking about it?
Its pretty bad. Its like an ominous cloud over the city. You don’t get to see them everywhere but they’re pretty common. The presence of the national guard is meant to be a show of force, so they are located in prominent and visible places.
However, the National Guard has mostly kept to the sidelines. I’m more concerned about ICE, Park Police and other federal law enforcement running rampant in unmarked cars, wearing masks, and trying to make themselves unaccountable.
People in DC are definitely talking about it. Many folks elsewhere are dissapointingly quiet
Thanks! It was really bugging me that I couldn’t place it from that photo, it looks like a dozen different places around d.c./nova from that angle. The only thing that didn’t seem right to me was the roof.
I guess it’s just the angle, but that’s definitely taken on Columbus circle looking west
Lol, what a weird thing to nit pick…
Not a nit pick, I just lived in the area for a while and it looked familiar is all.
Smile, you on camera just following orders.
I hope breaking your oath was worth it. I’m ashamed to see the uniform I once wore now.
This deployment was legal for up to 30 days. They can only refuse illegal orders
What oath? They’re literally just standing around doing nothing. This deployment is legal, the president is allowed to do it for 30 days. After that you might have some legal fuckery to try and get them there illegally but it’s above board for now.
it’s above board for now
Can’t wait to continue hearing this while we all board the trains.
Jesus Christ. Do something about it or STFU. I’m so sick of feckless leftists complaining and complaining and doing nothing about it. Be the change you want to see in the world.
What part of my statement suggests that I’m not?
Or are you just complaining about the lack of civilians getting gunned down in the street and want to feel like a tough guy? Maybe take your own advice?
You mean this oath? The one that swears to obey the orders of the president?
“I, ________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of ______ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of ______ and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.”
“According to law and regulations.”
The president is breaking the oldest law we have. Around deez here parts we call that the constitution, Kyle.
So are you going to pay for the legal fight they would have and eventually lose? Will you pay their fines, fees and serve their sentence? And pay them when they can’t find a job due to a dishonorable discharge?
Yeah, use my taxes to defend people that don’t betray the constitution.
No, you personally. Since that’s what you’re asking of these people.
Yes.
You can take my personal taxes and pay the people that aren’t traitors to America.
You, personally, can go do it.
Idiot
Still rocking Humvees?
They are Nasty Girls after all. They get all the broken clapped-out hand-me-downs.
Freedom
