• Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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    2 days ago

    We need to pursue a society in which everyone has equal access to rights and resources, where no one has to worry about food or shelter from the elements, or whether their family will be ripped away from them due to circumstances. Where no-one is given exception, even when they are deeply in debt or committed heinous crimes, or are the most deviant of sexual perverts. We can include them and address the issues as well.

    A society in which everyone has exactly the same amount of political power may not be possible but we can get closer to this than we are now. This is what that more perfect union bit is about.

    We need to less follow ideologies which operate more like divine command theory as dicta or creeds, and more see societal models as exactly that: models. We know democracy on its own needs to be fine tuned. We know capitalism works only when well regulated and upper management isn’t allowed to behave irresponsibly. We know command economics requires a lot of deliberation and the willingness to listen to and address gripes from the public. The end goal is still the same: Everyone eats. Everyone is warm. Everyone is welcome.

    This is my mission statement.

    • TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml
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      2 days ago

      We know capitalism works only when well regulated and upper management isn’t allowed to behave irresponsibly.

      How could you propose effective regulations if people with money are always able to influence the government? If money exists how can we protect society from it’s corrupting influence?

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
        2·
        21 hours ago

        I don’t, and Karl Marx explains this is the inevitable outcome of a capitalist system in Das Kapital.

        Right now the EU is trying its hand at it by making a regulatory system that is difficult to influence. It’s happening, and some countries have devolved into neoliberal parties vs. far-right (monarchist) parties, showing us that Marx is once again right.

        If I were to get a soviet (lower case) committee of scholars to hammer out a workable system, I’d avoid capitalism in favor of a post-scarcity socialist / communist state (and if we don’t have the means to kick off with one, then we’d lay out a tech-tree path towards one.

        But that’s not how societies work. We have to work towards a world in which people are given the liberty to live as they please, and not be burdened by want of essentials. We can’t seize all the property today and have food kiosks available tomorrow.

        Also, I’m not even a poli-sci graduate, and I’d defer to those who’ve actually learned the history and checklists. But I could see a country deciding to invest some taxes in a massive potato growing project, and offering free potatoes to everyone; as much as they need. And then following up with other extremely common, extremely useful products (pencils and paper)? Lumber in standard sizes? Steel wood screws? Eventually, the state would offer protein bars and issue bog standard smart phones.

        We’ve already seen ur-programs like this, from government cheese, food stamps and SNAP to the electric companies offering flourescent bulbs and later LED bulbs to get all households on the same page.

        That said, these are all guesses. I can’t predict the future and how we advance.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
        3·
        2 days ago

        It’s a long process, especially since people who have a lot of power really, really, really want to keep it.

        For now the process is getting people on the same page. Or as a certain poet put it:

        You may say I’m a dreamer
        But I’m not the only one
        I hope some day you’ll join us
        And the world will be one

          • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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            1 day ago

            I wouldn’t hold my breath either.

            Human society continues to careen towards multiple great filters it is ill-prepared to navigate, and the trillion-dollar propaganda machine that got Trump elected works. We just may not be evolved to cooperate at the level that gets us to community-based governments without monied interests interfering.

            Mark Twain invested his money into the Paige Compositor, an automated mechanical typesetter, which had over a thousand moving parts in an era that lacked the capacity for precision molding. Babbage constructed the difference engine 2 which worked like a charm when built by students a century later, but he was defunded at the wrong time.

            Sometimes we’re just not ready for good ideas, and not capable of implementing them at the time they are discovered.

      • FrezikEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        Kills forms of leftisim that don’t agree with them

        We’re the only kind of Marxism that ever succeeded!!!

  • Allonzee@lemmy.world
    3·
    2 days ago

    that one liberal

    As a democratic socialist I think I am more annoyed by neolibs than the Fascists. I wish the Fascists were gone more, but the neolibs found a way to be more insufferable.

    Fascists largely seem to know they’re selfish, hateful pricks and take a perverse pride in it. Note the shit eating grins and lazy circular arguments meant to provoke more than defend.

    Liberals want to have their cake and eat it too. They have no problem with mass homelessness so long as it’s not in their backyard, and they like record profits even when it involves legal murder of customers, but they blow a microchip when informed that means they work against society and are also selfish fucks who want there to be winners and losers instead of everyone having full bellies. You cant be for mass homelessness, for basic needs not being met by some while others have too much and be a decent person.

    At least the Devil is the Devil and not perpetually trying to find the new middle ground of greed and power and asking to be called a good boy or girl for it. I prefer sociopaths that announce themselves.