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    You’re right, America did bad thing, clearly this completely overrides the wrongs of other countries

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      The first commenter is talking a hypothetical scenario of socialism being bad, so the second commenter (the one you responded to) responded with actual example of that same hypothetical scenario happening, but except by a capitalist power (the US). I don’t think your response makes sense at all here.

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          Calling something “Whataboutism” infers a belief in American exceptionalism. You should question that belief.

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            Calling out whataboutism is perfectly acceptable when it is being used regardless of its origins.

            It is in no way a logical fallacy and in fact the use of whataboutism is itself a logical fallacy.

            The flaw in gorilladrum’s argument is that the hypothetical example demonstrates the flaws in that specific situation and does not address problems in socialism as a whole yet they suggest it dismisses the ideology completely.

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              People cry whataboutism when they dislike people throwing context that goes against their argument into a discussion.

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                  That’s literally whataboutism, I criticized people using the vocabulary of “whataboutism” and then you said “but whatabout people who are doing whataboutism!”

                  To be clear, I dont believe whataboutism is a fallacy, but you do, so why are you doing it?

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                    It’s funny liberals had to start calling it “Whataboutism” as the previous term made it clear they were racist.

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                    No it isn’t. I am explaining why whataboutism is a fallacy itself. If you have a valid counterpoint to a claim there would be no need to engage with whataboutism.

                    I am not engaging in whataboutism but based on your view that it isn’t fallacious Im not sure you will understand that. Not everyone is good at logical processing.