The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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    Even more than that, if you don’t vote the way your state is going, you’re wasting your vote. For example, if I’m a Dem in a Red state, I have to vote Red, otherwise, you know, I’m wasting my vote! You may think you’re making a “statement”, but it’s just a failure to accept reality.

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        LOL. You people are just so predictably. You know, history shows that the more people vote, the more left things lean. But go on yelling from the top of your plastic soap box that people who don’t vote the “right” way are throwing their vote away. You’d do far more good trying to get people to vote.

        I’ll keep winning no matter what, while you are the true vote waster!

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      Three issues: There is almost no state so red or blue that it couldn’t swing with ~10% shift to the other party.

      There are plenty of local elections that will not go the same direction as the state, and they have more effect locally than the president.

      Your vote is “wasted” by voting for who’s going to win. Voting for the winner, against your judgment, doesn’t make your vote more valuable. If anything, it makes it less valuable. The only time your vote really matters (intellectually) is when it’s used to swing a vote opposite of expectation.

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        You do you. I just support more people voting. I’m too old now to continue walking the precincts to try to get the vote out every election. You seem to have a flexible judgment of when a vote counts and when it doesn’t. Pretty fucked up way of looking at things. In my humble opinion at least.

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          I don’t think it’s fucked up. I think it’s realistic. We need to change the way representation works in the US, but it’s built and manufactured to support the status quo, so that’s the way it works.

          Actions outside of voting though, there are plenty available. Expecting voting to be the thing to make things work is probably faulty.

          I also expect the republican party to come crashing down soon. My expectation is that the democratic party takes the place of the right wing party and something else takes the left. At that point, things will change. Right now though, status quo is the voting options.

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          Because that’s the only way a vote is wasted. It is probably least valuable voting for who is expected to win, but second least used voting for who doesn’t stand a chance.