…trump’s war on anything that distracts from him fucking little girls…
Hey man, slow down with all that conclusion-jumping, we don’t have all the facts yet. He might’ve fucked little boys too.
live boy, dead girl
…like the optimism…
I’m European, living here now, would leave if I could.
i cannot put American “cheese” on my pasta.
even as an american, american cheese is disgusting.
I can taste the emulsifier they add to it so it “melts” nicer.
I will disagree with pasta and cheddar, though. Mac and Cheese is wonderful. (well. from scratch mac and cheese. blue boxes need not apply)
There is a time and place for Kraft mac & cheese.
yhea, and it is making it with real cheese.
Ive grown to really enjoy Kraft singles on burgers and grilled cheese over the last several years. I come from the land of Tillimook cheese but personally can’t stand it on the above mentioned items because it’s just so damned greasy when you melt it and waters down the taste of everything else with grease flavor.
I’m confused, both of those are American cheese.
i meant American and American, not as cheese singles that is barely legally cheese
Well maybe i need to try cheddar made outside of the US on a burger to see how I like it. Kraft cheese is American cheese so I thought you meant the “style” of cheese not the country of origin. From what I’ve heard, Tillamook cheese is pretty popular in a lot of places though
Kraft cheese is American cheese
It’s literally not, go read the label again.
In my experience, there’s not much reason to try a burger outside the US.
Tillamook is my go-to brand, by the way. Their ice cream is unbeatable, especially their Sea Salt & Honeycomb Toffee, which is the most amazing ice cream I’ve ever tasted.
I also don’t love a sweaty cheese on my burger, even if it’s Tillamook.
That “grease” is noting but butterfat, which in my opinion has a very nice flavor.
Kraft Singles aren’t American Cheese (like literally, they’re legally not allowed to call it that). I wish people would stop associating the two.
Actual good American cheeses exist. A favorite of mine is Cooper Sharp American.
Kraft singles are the standard “American cheese”, which is legally not actually cheese.
But yes, there are plenty of other perfectly good cheeses made in America. I think the US is best known for Vermont cheddar.
I think the US is best known for Vermont cheddar.
In the US perhaps. Outside of the US it is mostly known for those Kraft singles.
To be fair to American cheese, I think the fact that the only thing anyone says about it is that it’s not legally cheese gives people the impression it’s spooky chemicals. It’s really not so bad. Here’s the recipe:
8 ounces solid mild cheddar
¼ cup nonfat milk powder
2 tablespoons tapioca starch
⅜ teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons butter
¼ cup dry white wine
¼ cup water
mac and cheese is something else, you wouldn’t put parm on that. but practically every other sauce needs some real parm on top.
You might want to reconsider the first part. While you don’t want parm to be the primary cheese, a little parm added to homemade Mac and cheese really steps it up.
They mean all cheese manufactured inside the United States, not the product titled “American Cheese,” as in the yellow slices like Kraft Singles, etc.
Go read a Kraft Singles label from any point in the last two decades and show me where it calls itself “cheese.”
Go read the comment again
not the product titled “American Cheese,” as in the yellow slices like Kraft Singles, etc.
Kraft Singles are not titled “American Cheese.” Go read a label and come back. They’re not legally allowed to call it “cheese.”
Sodium citrate
i cannot put American “cheese” on my pasta.
Who the fuck does that?
Americans
I don’t think the people downvoting know that there’s really people out here putting American craft singles slices on their spaghetti. I should know, I’m related to a couple of them. Seen it a good chunk of my life, almost always in poorer homes, from the southern US and a few times here in the midwest.
The exception, not the rule.
I’ve never seen that. American cheese is for bologna sandwiches or for melting in burgers
It’s all fucking confusing.
I am talking admit cheese made in the USA, kraft singles aren’t even legally allowed to be called cheese
My aunt in the US makes lasagna with Velveeta
They don’t though, unless you count mac & cheese
He’s not talking about “American Cheese,” he’s talking about e.g. Kraft grated (fake) “parmesan” cheese made in America.
Oh yeah, we definitely do that lol
Nothing wrong with it, if you’re just making something basic. Not everything needs to be cuisine.
But putting Kraft singles on pasta is a crime.
You don’t. You can literally find them making dinner on TikTok.
Just like all the thousands of people eating tide pods? Or maybe it’s just rage bait…
Is it really that hard to stomach the idea of melting American cheese on pasta?
I can’t. I don’t have TikTok, literally or figuratively.
you mean Americans don’t grate cheese on their Bolognese?
Oh I thought you meant “American cheese” a la Velveeta. Yeah, we definitely put shitty grated fake Parm on stuff. It’s an acquired taste/texture lol. I don’t recommend trying to grate Velveeta.
I buy imported Parmesan cut straight from the block for pasta, and savor it in each dish as it is expensive. Excuse yourself.
Same, but the popular thing is some American dried mass produced milk prouduct.
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Have you tried sartori or belgioioso Parmesan? They aren’t parmegiano Reggianio, but they definitely scratch a similar itch. If you’re talking about “American cheese” itself then, yeah, you either know that that’s not cheese or are living in ignorant bliss not knowing what cheese actually is
tried. not even close.
Fair enough. But when the real stuff is $15 for a sliver that lasts the afternoon… we take what we can get I suppose
$15 lasts me about 4 family meals. not sure where do you get your cheese or how much you’re using
it isn’t a cheap ingredient, but it is definitely not a luxury one either.
we aren’t taking abour real balsamic vinegar or caviar here
I buy parm cut from an imported block. That $15 chunk will last a few months or more for me… I use it sparingly though.
living in ignorant bliss not knowing what cheese actually is
May I introduce you to the godless abomination from St Louis, MO - Provel cheese
I do miss St Louis style pizza every so often.
Tbh I dont think it looks terrible. I prefer a wet mozzarella with some sharp cheddar but I’d try it
You’re supposed to put it on a burger/sandwich, not pasta.
I an referring to American cheese, as in cheese made in America, not kraft singles.
Well then you are just revealing your own ignorance to the world.
Enjoy your large blocks of cheap Cheddar and Colby jack, I do miss real cheese though.
There’s a reason for less cheese variety/quality in the us, milk must be pasteurized for cheese, which limits the cheeses available.
Non pasteurized cheeses are safe (unlike non pasteurized milk consumption)
If you can only find Cheddar and Colby Jack (which are real cheeses) then you’re doing a very bad job shopping for groceries.
Meijer has an better cheese section with a few international cheeses and cheaper American counterparts, the American counterparts absolutely suck.
The main “cheese” area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose.
American Cheddar sucks compared to UK Cheddar, don’t even taste like the same cheese. And Colby jack is OK.
There’s also the issue that American cheese culture didn’t got a chance to mature before corporations took over and started making a handful of mass produced cheap products.
There’s a lot more than one “American Cheddar”, it’s a big damn country with several distinct dairy regions. (Wisconsin, California, New York, and Vermont being significant but not exhaustive) And the cheese culture is just a fork of the various European colonizers/immigrants that brought cattle over, combining old techniques with new resources.
Cream cheese, Humboldt Fog, and Cougar Gold are some highlights of American-developed-and-produced cheeses.
The main “cheese” area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose.
Nah, I stand with the other guy, I think you just suck at shopping. This doesn’t describe literally any non-budget grocery store that I’ve been to in the past decade.
If this is the only cheeese you’re finding, are your unsure you’re not looking at a convenience store? We’ve never lacked for choice of cheeses, even if the biggest quantities are the plainest choices
Oh fuck right off with that bullshit.
The US is a big fucking country. Full of a diverse range of cultures. If you go to some American supermarket and buy some lump of mass-produced pseudo-cheese, and sure, It’s gonna suck. But that’s true of most anywhere in the world.But you go to a local market or a co-op or a mom & pop shop or a neighborhood bodega or a farmers market or any place with a cheese selection that isn’t dropped off by a truck from some faceless corporation, and you’re going to find some great cheeses. Are you in a rural area? Look for an Amish community. They can make some incredible cheeses.
I’m sick of you fuckers going to McDonald’s and then exclaiming “American food sucks.” -while ignoring all of the hardworking humble family owned restaurants who put out great food.
These broad generalized statements about Americans fucking cheese me off. Probably bought some cheese made by a Unilever subsidiary (a British company, btw) and then decided all American cheese sucks.
Yhea, you have boo idea how much you just admitted that US cheese sucks.
In Europe you will have to seriously go out of your way to get a kg worth of white cheese, while in the states that’s the norm.
In Europe every supermarket has a much better variety and at much higher quality than the states. There might be a handful of cheese shops in the states, but they are rare and the vast majority of Americans can’t get there. Meanwhile in Europe, even the smallest towns have markets and cheese shops.
And given that the US is so big, it’s disappointing that it has such tiny variety that results from everything being basically 2 or 3 corporations.
That’s fucking stupid. I live in a major American city and can easily ride my bike to a shop to get some great locally made cheese. But keep shitting on all of America. It gets the upvotes.
Food deserts are a thing,
In Europe everyone has access to those kind of shops, not only those who live in a city. The only reasonable shop where they have an ok cheese selection is an hour drive away for me.
I have no idea what you’re talking about with “white cheese” do you mean mozzarella? Ricotta? Cottage cheese? Feta? Munster? Swiss? Provolone? Cream cheese?
I can go to the local supermarket and pick up any of the above, plus goat cheese, which is also white.
But the most common cheese that Americans eat is probably cheddar. My local supermarket carries three different types of cheddar.
Speaking of yellow cheeses, I have in my refrigerator, some Gouda, some Colby, and some Monterey Jack.
I also have some American cheese, which is simply cheddar that’s been melted with sodium citrate to make a softer melting cheese. American only comes in prepackaged slices. But then again, the same can be said for the Munster and Provolone, well, deli slices.
I’ve lived in food deserts, I’ve lived in food oasis. Right now I’m closer to the desert side of things and even so, the cheese selection is fairly broad.
Wow three brands of cheddar!!! That’s so much.
Look at the Monty python sketch for what would be expected a normal cheese shop on Europe, a normal supermarket might have half that variety.
Not brands, types. Mild, sharp, and extra sharp.
If we’re talking brands, there are half a dozen.
And again, I’m in a bit of a food desert. If I felt like driving for an hour or so, I could actually get every cheese from that sketch, except Casu Marzu.
Interesting how your example of a European cheese shop, had no cheese at all.
That’s the joke. But that variety in a store isn’t that rare
And I could drive for an hour and get much the same variety.
But even in a food desert, I have dozens of options, from soft cheeses to hard.
I can visit the in store deli for even more options. Because cheese ships incredibly well with modern refrigeration.
There’s no such thing as American gastronomy.
hard disagree.
yhea “white” American food is shite. because White culture, fundamentally does not exist (white as a culture was a way to erase the historical heritage of immigrants to create a blank slate group that was superior to natives/slaves). and once modernised its all corporate franchise slop.
and it shows. however, other subgroups have a rich culinary history. look at soul food for example, or when the immigrant heritage is allowed to shine Italian influence with NY pizza… or that bizarre mix of when a Chicago Italian hired a black cook from the South mixing southern slave recipes with Italian, to create Chicago pizza…
Humboldt Fog is the best cheese I’ve ever tasted, and it’s from the U.S. Cabot Cheddar I would compare favorably to other cheddars, we have some good cheeses here.
Parmesan though? I would just buy less & still get the reggiano. Sometimes I just stand by the display and smell it, it is so good.
Possibly one of the best cheddars in the world is from the US (and comes in a can)
Cougar Gold
I’ve had it, it’s really good, and it keeps basically forever in the refrigerator, arguably getting better as it ages
He probably thinks Parmigiano Reggiano is a new extreme leftist Democratic candidate for mayor of NYC
Silly trump, the lyrics are
O partigiano portami via,
o bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
o partigiano portami via
che mi sento di morir
Prego
Giorgia Meloni crying in the corner, thinking what she did wrong to upset her buddy
American Cheese is an oxymoron
oxymoron - the pimple cream for idiots
