Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter to the point where it makes them not want to switch sites?
To me, the stripped down clarity on Lemmy is a feature. I remember back in the day when people flocked to Facebook from MySpace, in large part because they were sick of eye gouging customized pages and just wanted a simple, consistent interface. The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?
I’m here to read think and talk. I like it simple.
Same, was using old.Reddit before and plan on figuring out how to use the tools I saw to redo lemmy to page layout on no stupid questions.
Yeah, for real. “But there’s no fun awards and bubbly icons and bright colors.”
Well then, go back to kindergarten.
The reason I used Reddit is Fun WAS because of its stripped down, bare bones style. I only wanted to read thoughts and opinions, and choose to view images/video/ads when I wanted to. This is absolutely a feature of Jerboa (and Lemmy) for me
I don’t know the background of OP so this is just an opinion: I feel that modern UX have become so ubiquitous and streamlined for content consumption that users who aren’t used to old-styled UIs see the lack of “sleek” design as lesser. It works doubly so that users aren’t willing to venture outside of their ecosystems and will put up with anything regardless if it’s detrimental to their experience.
Compare users of new reddit and the official app vs. users of old reddit and 3PA. I used 3PA because there wasn’t an official app and RiF matched what I was used to. It’s a similar phenomena to Apple users vs Windows/Android. People are just used to a streamlined sleek experience (which to be fair has it’s merits) but to say it’s superior or that the alternative is lesser is a large misstep in thinking.
It takes effort to go out of your comfort zone but it’s saddening to see users mindlessly, for lack of a better terms, consume
I think Lemmy could use some more ads. I feel like I don’t have enough material things, and I don’t know what to buy. /s
I also would like to have content that makes people angry shoved in my face to keep me engaged.
It feels familiar to old.reddit so i like it. Squabbles has an interesting approach to displaying posts + comments tho
I tried Squabbles and got so confused. Took me forever to realize that the post was on the left column and the replies were on the right column. I stupidly thought Squabbles was combining Twitter and Reddit and thought the two columns were completely independent from one another. It makes sense to me now, but my simple brain likes this layout.
It’s about personal preference. It’s important to have a user interface that’s modular and comfortable for the end user and manageable for the devs. Options are always the answer, the ability to enable or disable certain aspect or details is what drives me towards one app or the other. (This is coming from someone who used Infinity for Reddit for the past 4 years.)
It just seems incredibly nitpicky to call alternatives lazy for not having all of the modularity of a decade+ old platform.
”Reddit is imploding, and the CEO is being terrible to users, and the native app is super intrusive and inefficient but ugh the alternatives have square buttons.”
Just really weird that the lack of visual bells and whistles is something to even talk about at the moment. Just a little lower in the thread, the same person complained about lack of gilding. Just, really weird complaints.
I’m happy to have people like that stay on reddit. They can stagnate along with the dying platform and their stupid round buttons.
I hear you. I agree that it’s silly to complain about that stuff right now, to the person who isn’t satisfied, instead why not post a feature request on the github and continue browsing reddit for now?
Because they’re lazy lol
Yes people do like nice design and user interfaces. Apple managed to grab a large market share by understanding that.
It doesn’t have to be cluttered but it doesn’t have to be … this.
If you want things to improve, you are going to have to accept criticism that your current crush isn’t perfect. There is already a lot of the toxic Reddit’ness that has come over, we don’t need more.
I think the more they bitch about Reddit alternatives, the more people will be reminded that there are alternatives to Reddit.
“The hosts are too lazy” says the person whining about it without doing anything.
Try switching to a platform you’ve never used before and making a community out of nothing, or host the Lemmy instance and be forced to deal with thousands of new users daily. Lazy my ass…
Reddit’s UI and performance was pretty horrible for me in the browser. That being said, I find Lemmy’s UI and performance worse. 😢
They definitely need to hire a real designer and work on performance. It’s pretty bad when I try to subscribe to a community on lemmy.ml from lemmy.world. It takes like minutes for me for the request to go through.
The contrast between white and lime green is pretty bad too. The design makes the app feel cheap. That matters for a lot of people.
I’m hopeful Lemmy will get better over time. 👍
Everything looks better on Jerboa. I went back on the browser to see what you’re talking about and immediately saw what you’re talking about!
Shouldn’t be too hard to change the CSS, but I wish this isn’t the default. Even grey would look better.
I hope the devs check these posts out.
I honestly have a hard time using it outside of Jerboa. It’s not just UI, but functionality issues as well. I don’t blame people for being turned off. It’s a big part of the reason why I don’t think we’ll see large scale adoption. And I don’t even think the current way things are set up can handle large scale.
Lemmy is a good experiment, but I’m not sure this form of federation is going to work.
In FOSS there’s two kinds of people. Those who contribute to the change they want to see in the world, and people who bitch about unimportant things.
Lemmy hosters don’t need to use the official UI, it’s just the only one that currently exists, we just need a better front end developed by someone
I definitely miss Reddit’s stylesheets. Giving mods control over the page’s CSS was just really neat. Everything had an individual flair
Lol did people use reddit without turning off sub specific stylesheets?!
I left them on if they supported dark mode.
Lemmy defaults to dark mode. Praise be to Lemmy.
Let’s not kid ourselves, some subs were awful. Few like mildly infuriating actually were creative with it and added to the experience. Others were crimes against design. I disabled them with RES globally and only activated a few select ones. Too many mods thought that red text over black background was a good idea. Then there were those who had a highlight effect on the selected comment and made the white text unreadable. Design is a Art.
Yea I had it set to never use custom CSS, imo was much better that way.
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Kbin has support for custom CSS. There are still some bugs and plenty of things to iron out, but once the platform matures, expect there to be plenty of color and vibrance haha.
In theory, custom CSS is a neat idea, but it’s typically a one-and-done project that is difficult to update, and in most cases, an inadvertent “fuck you” to users who rely on the built-in accessibility of native elements.
Also, custom CSS by users is effectively them placing a code freeze on the frontend.
If a better way of doing things comes along (which is a given in the tech world), you either improve the core site CSS and break the customizations (and hear all about it from your users); improve both (which is a ton of work with no tangible difference in what’s rendered to the page), but now the people who made those customizations need to up their CSS game (which rarely happens); or you do nothing and let entropy run its course and do a total rewrite some day. The last one is literally what happened with new Reddit.
TBF Lemmy UI/UX is horrible. So is Reddit’s IMO, for completely different reasons, but still. It’s a valid criticism, it’s just also not an endorsement of Reddit.
Yeah, Lemmy is still a bit rough around the edges in a lot of ways. I hope the surge in users brings some frontend devs over.
The new apps should help a lot, but it’s still a bit of a pain to use on PC. I also have issues with the feed just going wild and poping in new posts so fast I can’t read anything on the web.
Lemmy needs work, but I’m not here for the design. I’m here to wrestle control away from corporations. Anyone that doesn’t understand that is a bot.
I like the deisgn and layout of Lemmy a lot. It reminds me a lot of old.reddit.com
I’m pretty sure Reddit UI/UX isn’t very well designed either lol. Especially new reddit.
New reddit tried to fix something nobody thought was broken. New reddit and its app was meanwhile annoying and broken as fuck.
Agreed. I clung to the old reddit and swore to quit Reddit once they took that away.
Turns out they managed to make me quit before that happened lol.
Dark grays, blues? Squared? Good. I love simplicity! Not to mention, Reddit started out like that too, and among the older wave of users old.reddit was still a favorite for that reason.
No kidding. The color scheme is easy on the eyes, and I can digest information easily here much like old reddit. What are they on?
