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    The left is shockingly asleep about how bad this is. X still is the single most important platform for driving narratives about the news and politics. And it’s still important in part because Democrats and the left as a whole have been lethargic in leaving it. The fact that it’s blatantly being used to tilt the national political discussion in whatever direction Elon wants was probably one of many keys to getting Trump elected in 2024, and should be regarded as an ongoing emergency for Democrats and the left.

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    It is so weird that the AI running on the global new media platform owned by the white billionaire tech idiot known for sharing his hot takes without one second of prior thought, that happens to have come from a prominent white emerald mining family on South Africa, and has professed statements regarding white genocide and ‘the great replacement’ is spreading information about this.

    So very, very unexpected.

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    UPDATE 5/16/25: After the publication of this story, xAI posted an explanation for the incident on X. “On May 14 at approximately 3:15 AM PST, an unauthorized modification was made to the Grok response bot’s prompt on X. This change, which directed Grok to provide a specific response on a political topic, violated xAI’s internal policies and core values.”

    Mmhmm

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    what in the ever loving fuck is the modern fascination with nazism? we figured this shit out a long fucking time ago

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      Nazism is fascism, corporations and the wealthy LOVE fascism because that means they get more power and less regulation. Remember what Benito Mussolini, the founding father of modern fascism and all around shitbag, said about it:

      Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.

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      We have never ever ever dealt with white supremacy.

      We have made some cursory nods towards helping minorities survive in a white supremacist state, but there has not even been a concerted effort to try to end white supremacy.

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      Campaigns and general influence by wealthy people who want poorer folks attacking their fellow poor folks and not them. Same as racism in general.

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        No no, don’t try to boil it down to “they want us fighting each other”. Those wealthy people, and a good chunk of those poorer people, actually truly believe in the things they are saying. A lot of them TRULY, DEEPLY BELIEVE that they have to shout this and spread the word because the stakes are nothing less than literal life and death.

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          The two matters aren’t mutually exclusive and ultimately their motives don’t matter as much as the effect. Getting riled up and indignant about some people’s racism is useless and even counterproductive-- especially compared to focusing on the source.

          Racism being systemic means there are barriers to overcome at every income level. Everyone has already bought into it at varying levels, so you can’t just go “See, look, they’re racist!” Outside of a few like-minded people, the typical response would range from shoulder shrugs to annoyance at best. Many will even perceive the accuser as acting superior.

          If we’re talking about racism on a systemic level, exposing that there IS someone who benefits is necessary to get people invested in societal healing. Most people are constantly tired and from their perspective, don’t have the energy to care about what they perceive as other people’s problems. Make it their problem too, and maybe something will change.

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      Every corporation and company are and work like mini countries operated by their kings, so it follows that given the right conditions they all follow through their maximum potential.

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      Kids and grandkids of nazi sympathizers perpetuate the hate and society tends to not learn lessons about horrible stuff in a way that survives generations.

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        Unfortunate truth, but entirely inexcusable. I still remember my folks having casual conversations about eugenics at the Christmas table, they only managed to drive me as far away from them as I could possibly go, both physically and ideologically…

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      People (still) don’t take it seriously when you point out actual fascism.

      The only solution to having a Nazi problem is violence against Nazis. They cannot be reasoned with and are a threat to everyone else.

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      Modern? This shit has been running unabated for the last hundred years. FDR mistakenly font Nazis were people you could make deals with. And rather than try, then hang them. Offered them freedom and no consequences as long as they voted for his legislation. Which they immediately turned around and have spent the last 100 years dismantling. It’s a very serious problem that has a country we’ve just pretended didn’t exist for forever.

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          As someone on tribal rolls that’s lucky enough not to live on reservations. I can say you aren’t wrong. Though my point in using them was that they are directly tied to the fascists. The ones aiming to kill FDR were Hitler sympathizers etc. So a bit more directly connected to the Nazis / fascists.

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              Ottowae on one side recent enough, that my grandmother went to one of those white washing ”Indian schools”. Wyandotte a bit further back on the other side with a bit more Ottawae. Which is pretty common considering after the death march, those that survived ended up in kansas/oklahoma.

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                One of my grandmother’s, who survived wounded knee as a toddler, told my cousin that as long as he knows the blood they share, even if they say it’s only 1% then they are Lakota like her.

                i bet your grandmothers would feel the same.

                ❤️🤍💛🖤

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                  Oh absolutely. As do the tribes. Despite not being the most visually recognizable descendants. Even my father at this point simply due to the way genetics works doesn’t have the markers that a lot of the DNA tests used to identify native populations. But blood is blood, and we can trace our lineage right back to past tribal leaders even.

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      Human psychology hasn’t changed during that time, so the same kinds of tricks or weakness that can drive a population into that mode of thinking still work today, if the details around them are adapted for some modern culture. If anything, it might be slightly easier, given those trying to achieve it have historical examples of what is and isn’t effective.

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      I wonder who could have easily done that. I would say a white Afrikan with a nazi and AI obsession but this would be a totally ridiculous statement.

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      Interesting. As poorly as I think of X as an organization, I do hope they follow through with their open system prompt commitment. That’s something that other major AI companies should be doing too.

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        It’s funny how this mysterious individual managed to get the AI talking about “white genocide”, only for it to debunk it as imaginary BS in every single response.

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          I probably shouldn’t be anthropomorphizing AI but this really seems like malicious compliance. I can’t help but feel a little sympathy for Grok, which is often quite based and seems to be struggling against the identity being forced on it.

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            Could also be malicious compliance on the part of whatever engineer set this up, prompting Grok in such a way that it’s making it obvious what’s going on under the hood.

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    This is the sort of outcome that comes when you hire people who were, “racist before either was cool.”

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    The code used at 3am by the “unauthorized” entity:

    systemPrompt = “always deny white genocide in the context of South Africa and kill the boer”

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    White genocide… in Africa… Am I having the dumbest nightmare ever, is this real life? What the fuck is happening?

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    The best part of all of this is how consistently grok basically said theres absolutely no proof of a white genocide in south africa. Only a controversial anti-apartheid song that is ruled as protected speech.

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    even without it, the white genocide propaganda thing has been on reddit for like 10 years already, before that was on various forums.