• Lumiluz@slrpnk.net
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    3 days ago

    Much cheaper, but not more secure.

    Excluding that, if my country had started a territorial way of aggression, and I was now living in a country that’s been threatened by said country in the recent past as well, I wouldn’t be traveling back, let alone often.

    Combined with actual continual examples of Russians not only spying but carrying out assassinations in foreign countries (like the UK) and sabotaging infrastructure almost every month, and if anything, this is pretty light retaliation.

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      3 days ago

      You personally wouldn’t travel back and forth, but this doesn’t necessarily apply to everyone - there were and still are a decent amount of Russian nationals working/living here with their families, distant or otherwise, still living back home in Russia/Belarus. No matter your nationality, you might want to go back to your home country and visit your family. What if there’s an emergency/funeral you have to attend after visiting? It might not be a valid reason to go back (given how vague the articles are), and you might lose your residence because of it. It’s only one example of course, but there definitely are more scenarios like this one.

      Also, reading one of the news articles, counter-terrorism prevention isn’t even mentioned once, and it wouldn’t make sense given how I already outlined how it would be easier to get tools for terrorism locally, much safely too given how you don’t have to go through security that scrutinizes you more due to war-time, not to mention it doesn’t prevent terrorism from foreign agents who don’t own a residence here. If anything, the article mentions how these methods are there to further sanction Russia, to show solidarity to Ukraine and “limit specific Russian/Belarusian citizen rights”.

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        3 days ago

        Those legit people can apply for citizenship.

        This is lithuania not russia. Russia needs to make living comfortable for russians, not lithuania. Lithuanias job is to provide security for it’s citizens and ensure the survival of lithuanian culture. There is citizenship for people who like that and want that, no matter what country you frequent.

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          You need 10 years of residence before you can apply, and from what I hear from friends it’s not a sure thing. So you may be stuck living as a resident for much longer than that.

          Is it fair to not being able to go see your relatives for years/decade+? I’d pay that price for getting out of russia (well I already am paying it, albeit not to Lithuania) doesn’t make it right tho.

          But then again, as long as ru/br immigrants are still able to enter, live and obtain citizenship, can’t really be mad at the baltics they’re in a tough position.

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            24 hours ago

            Is it fair to not being able to go see your relatives for years/decade+?

            The article says no more then once every three months, how is this years/decades ?

            I’d be more worried about being detained on the Russian side.

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              22 hours ago

              Fair on both counts.

              I would not risk travelling to russia as a resident of its neighbor, both because russia can send you to jail/trench, and because your residency can be easily revoked/not extended. Permanently living somewhere as a non-citizen is a vulnerable position, and getting a citizenship is often outside your control.

          • endeavor@sopuli.xyz
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            2 days ago

            Its a bit rough but other than "stip zigzagging across rhe border constantly* it’s not a big deal and not a real restriction. I went home like twice a year when I lived abroad.