The big bang theory was not for geeks or nerds. It was pure shit.
Misogynistic pure shit.
It had a good few first episodes with fun geeky jokes, but it quickly turned to bad jokes and lazy stereotypes and relied loosely on stereotypes to contain the geekyness.
I always felt like it was a show for moms of geeks and nerds that missed their kids once they moved out.
No explanation necessary:
This changes my perspective on the entire show… I’m going to have to watch it again for the 152nd time with this in mind now.
I might require some explanation.
Autism.
Masking is a strategy used by some autistic people, consciously or unconsciously, to appear non-autistic. While this strategy can help them get by at school, work and in social situations, it can have a devastating impact on mental health, sense of self and access to an autism diagnosis
Oh shit, I’m a high masker.
Getting through the day be like:
Subject: Fire. “Dear Sir stroke Madam, I am writing to inform you of a fire which has broken out at the premises of…” No, that’s too formal. “Dear Sir stroke Madam. Fire, exclamation mark. Fire, exclamation mark. Help me, exclamation mark. 123 Carrendon Road. Looking forward to hearing from you. All the best, Maurice Moss.”
0118, 999, 881, 999, 119, 725…3.
Mid AF over here.
Oh good. I first thought this was some racist image editing joke based on skin colour. And everyone was happily going along with it.
If he’s low masking, how did he just have a chat about that ludicrous display last night?
I love this so much.
This image?
The show?
“Yes!” 💯
Id be tempted to swap jen and roy tbh
No… the IT crowd is a sitcom FOR geeks. That other shit just makes fun of us
I believe this is what happened to Dr Who. When it started it was for science and history nerds, science sounding gobble-de-gook, cos play outfits, very low production values (the infamous duct tape boots). All just good fun.
When it was rebooted the focus had shifted. The Doctor as the cool guy, a Jesus figure, became more and more pronounced. They started to make fun of nerds on a regular bases. Amazing writing and production values, but at some point during the Tennant era I stopped watching in disgust.The original Doctor Who was an educational show mostly aimed at school aged children that used a sci-fi gimmick to teach history lessons (much of which are a bit outdated now). They would alternate storylines between future and past settings through most of William Hartnell’s run.
Towards the end of classic Who it was already much more like modern Who than those first seasons.
Because, similar to blackface in its time, people love to point and laugh at exaggerated caricatures of something different from themselves.
And CBS airs lowest common denominator garbage that the masses devour.
The term you’re looking for is minstrel shows https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show
BBT is a minstrel show to humiliate smart people, anti intelligence sentiment is high in America
I’ve watched IT Crowd half a dozen times.
I haven’t managed to finish an episode of BBT before I switch it off in disgust.
In my mind, I still picture this as the archetype of an office’s boss inside a boss’s office. If it doesn’t have the 4th breaking wall picture, then it’s a fake boss
See, a real boss, ready to work for the greater good
FATHEERRRRRRR!!!
Chris Morris is a legend. I love Matt Berry but Morris is legitimately one of the most influential figures in British comedy.
The Day Today and Brass Eye put him on the map.
Jam is one of those shows that I doubt many people outside the UK would really get.
Jam is one of those shows I doubt many people inside the UK would get.
Ps: that’s how you know that J. Jonah Jameson wasn’t the boss at the daily Bugle, there was no self referential picture
No no IT Crowd is a show about sysadmins, not geeks lol. There’s a very clear difference.
And Moss was a nerd not a geek. He wasn’t obsessing about comics, videogames etc. like the characters in BBT.
I also think this is a cultural difference. The comic book obsession seems more like an american thing. In the Netherlands and Belgium there is also a big comic book appreciation, but it’s much less about heroism and more humorous.
Okay but he didn’t obsess about the British equivalent of comic books either. Geeks obsess about consumerist pop culture whether it’s comics, LEGO or Harry Potter. And Moss did non of that.
Flashbacks to the rett & link “nerd VS geek” music video
That came out 12 years ago
The IT crowd came out almost 20 years ago
Yeah, it’s an interesting difference.
There was a lot of pop culture references in IT Crowd, all the music posters, the retro computers, etc. but the cast didn’t even acknowledge it.
Yes, in the proportion of furries vs weebs.
If BBT was made today it would be accused of being written by AI. Fully flanderised characters, and endless filler episodes.
AKA “The Chuck Lorre Special”
I watched one random episode of BBT after it was recommended to me by a few people. That one episode was enough for me to decide that I never want to see that show again, and also that I should disregard all recommendations from the people who said I should watch it.
I watched a scene where someone posted it without the laugh track and it was super cringey. Semi-related note… Taking the laugh track out of BBT ruins it, but taking Garfield out of Garfield comics takes it to a new level, see here -> https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/
Taking the laugh track out of anything ruins it. You are replacing laughter with dead air.
I’d be interested to see an edit of classic sitcoms with laughs (tracks or live), edited to remove both the laugh and the associated pause in the performance.
There would be more cuts than a fight scene from Taken. It would be super distracting.
Hmmm
I haven’t watched many sitcoms recently. I felt like those pauses for audience laughs were often where they’d cut to other camera angles anyway (likely to distract from how unnaturally long the characters paused in the middle of their conversations)… But I don’t have any concrete evidence to back up my feeling.
I do prefer the Realfield edits, that replace Garfield with a normal cat.
Gives mire crazy cat guy than mental illness vibes.
You might like the Heathcliffe without Heathcliffe posts right here on Lemmy https://lemmy.world/c/heathcliff
The laugh track alone is enough evidence
IT Crowd also has a laugh track.
It tends to use it after actual jokes though.
IT crowd was filmed in front of an audience.
If I had to rate the IT crowd out of ten, I’d give it 01189998819991197253
… 3
I’ll just put all the fire together
A very good metaphor for IT support
For sure it’s no contest. Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Cooper always tries to walk it in.
BBT is a show about smart people for dumb people. The IT Crowd is a show about smart people.
I’ve always saw BBT as just a way to re-normalize making fun of neurodivergant people.
I think that’s right but at the same time I think you’re not doing it justice by implying that’s all it is.
And a way of renormalizing misogyny.
People be forgetting that the first season or two of the big bang theory was legitimately very good.
The first season or two of the IT crowd was… oh yeah, the whole show.
IT crowd’s best episodes were best-in-class. tnetennba. But it had a lot of meh too.
The thing about the IT crowd is they always try and walk it in
