• Ardycake@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    It’s funny, I has this exact scenario play out with a guy friend in college. It ruined our friendship. We were friends for maybe two years at that point and I was taken aback because I never saw him as anything but a friend and he even had a girlfriend at the time!

    After that exchange, he got so awkward the friendship fell apart. We still had classes together but he avoided me and I was not pressed to be near him, so we never saw each other again after that semester.

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    9 days ago

    I don’t care if this makes me a bad person, I get such immense satisfaction from this kind of emotional blowout. It’s so fulfilling to see bona fide narcissists fail then go hysterical about it❤️

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    I mean, obviously fictitious and elatedly happy

    That being said, there really are people like that. I’ve been in that situation, and I’ve seen it happen plenty. Maybe not those exact words, but sometimes , yes “I could have you if I wanted”

    There really are people that are both so arrogant as to believe they’re that “good”, and so narcissistic that whether or not you’re interested doesn’t matter.

    Like, I’m not some kind of super studly dude. I’m big, and strong, but I’m also hairy, balding, have always had at least a little belly on me, wear glasses, and have a round face, so I don’t have those chiseled features that folks get wet over. But I do pretty damn good. My kind of look has a degree of popularity, and the mind inside the body makes it work. So this isn’t some kind of situation where everything is chasing me.

    That being said, it is really annoying how often some shitty excuse for a human being has assumed that I would just jump in the sack with them, much less anything more. And it isn’t even the stereotypical “hot babes” either. Just women that assume that because they have a pussy, a guy is going to fall into the damn thing. You kinda expect narcissism when someone is on the prowl, looking for hookups and arm candy. But when you’re at a casual dinner party, and they’re coming at you with that kind of thinking, it’s extra extra. I mean, it isn’t always women, but the women tend to be more insistent, and more about demeaning you than men are.

    When it’s guys, you make it clear you’re hetero, and it’s “oh, well then” and it almost always ends there, or with a simple “if you tried this, that might change”, and then they’re done.

    But the women that think that way? It’s like they pin their whole sense of self on the idea that they can have any guy, no matter what. And, if you aren’t the classically handsome dude, you’re insulting them by just refusing to agree that if they wanted you, they could. Like, motherfucker, you’re insulting me just by saying that you don’t want me, and you’re adding in the assumption that my dick is in control of me? GTFO.

    You know what’s funny though? Only ever had one stripper try that shit. Bounced gay bars and titty bars off and on for years. You’d think strippers would be more prone to that kind of thing than other professions. Not for me. I would get the whole “it’s a shame you’re such a good guy, I’d ruin you” here and there, bit that’s a whole different thing entirely.

    Ran into it most with nurses, but I worked in that field more than as a bouncer, so they’re disproportionately represented in the people I would have extended interactions with.

    I eventually learned to just say okay and walk away. That kind of thinking, there’s no point in arguing, and you can’t change the subject, so you just leave.

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      I knew a woman who was absolutely certain she could have any guy easily. it’s true she was most attractive, but also super toxic, like she really had a history of driving her partners insane. Then she took interest in a rich boy who’d recently made some successful investment in timber trade. The dude in question was no stranger to toxicity either, he’d been quite the fuckboy. One guy almost beat him up over this once and everyone cheered, but they ended up becoming friends, and his new bestie really had a good influence on him, he’d become a pretty decent guy. Anyway, the toxic lady made advances on the ex-fuckboy and he said “No, don’t take it personally, I’d rather not be turned into a donkey or whatever it is you do to your boyfriends, thanks you.”

      But she did take it personally. Her old father owned quite the estate, including a very big, strong and aggressive bull. She unleashed it on the town to destroy the homes and devour the crops. The bull was also toxic, so no food would grow in its wake for seven years or something. But ex-fuckboi and his niceboi bff were very strong, so they killed the bull, and brought its carcass to toxic lady, as a sassy offering, which she didn’t appreciate.

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      yes “I could have you if I wanted”

      i mean, in some twisted sense of the word, if they were a better/different person, they could have them.

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    The core concept of the problem is not related to gender, it’s just that in societies highly differentiated by gender people have different means.

    Talk to male friend

    He randomly says if he wanted me he could have me

    I tell him no he couldn’t

    He gets really mad and says he could easily have me if he wanted to, practically has a fit of rage

    Changed pronouns exemplifies that that the core concept of this is that “having someone” is supposedly less about consent and more about compliance to standardised appearance (aka so-called “objective” beauty). If you have a lot of means (e.g. male or wealth privilege), this gets creepy real fast.

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          I’m not sure about that. One of the gay dudes on our discord is constantly making shit up stories based off crap he read on the internet he thinks the rest of us have somehow not seen already.

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    The correct reply is…

    “There’s really only one way you could have me, and that is [describe whatever sort of sexual kink you’re into]. After that, I might consider it.”

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    Well, the female friend basically said ‘I am so hot anyone I want (for example you) would love to have me as a girlfriend’.

    By denying that, he denied her self worth.

    Of course, her stance doesn’t take into account things like personal preference or matching personalities.

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    I’m sure everyone has their own answer to this question but I would really like her to clarify, what do you mean ‘have me’?

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    So many comments giving OP advice on how to get into a relationship with the girl. Has a single person here, at all, considered that maybe, just maybe, OP genuinely didn’t want a relationship with this girl…?

    I also think deflecting with “nah you couldn’t” would be funny in the right context. Follow it with a joke about increasing her powerlevel first and you’re good