So your reply to… 20 links, is to complain that someone is documenting well (“obsessed”) and then make one claim against the entire instance with one supporting link?
I have a massive problem with .world. There’s a reason I’m not on it. But the .world liberal problem doesn’t undo the .ml tankie problem. Two things can be true.
Those three links were posts of screenshots of mod actions? If I was doing a big, hyperfocus-style, documenting-things kind of thing, I wouldn’t link directly to the modlog for a lot of reasons. I’d link to a screenshot of the modlog. That way, people can see the thing I want to point out, and then if they want, go verify that it’s in the modlog.
Normally I wouldn’t wade into this obvious shitshow, but I have a massive pet peeve of a person dismissing another person’s argument with, “There’s too much evidence.” I get not wanting to comment individually on each and every thing they posted, who has the time, but for “I don’t want to engage with all this content,” there’s the option of not commenting at all. Telling someone that their point is invalid because they have too much content is really really really frustrating for me. That might be my neurodivergence but…
But, “your point is wrong because there’s too much evidence and I don’t wanna read it” isn’t a counterargument to the original point being made. And making a counterpoint of, “but here’s MY argument and MY evidence and I want you to engage with THAT” is… not what good faith debate should look like. If you can’t be bothered to engage with the original point being made, using it to pivot a discussion to your own point is… rude.
They have no evidence. They link questions to Liberals who ask rhetorical questions, such as “how can anyone in good faith support China and Russia” and then paste generic propaganda their post which all apply to America a thousand times more.
These are deeply unserious people who do nothing but concern troll on asklemmy. Spouting nonsense and putting a question mark after it.
And likely alt accounts of cm002 as he always complains about Hexbear and Lemmygrad while we cannot even see their posts on .world
I have to say, I read your comment, then went back and actually looked at the first three links they posted. None were rhetorical questions. Are you looking at something somewhere else that I’m not aware of?
But it doesn’t… Like I’m not actually interested in your fight. I just have a massive pet peeve about someone coming in, seeing a wall of links called ‘evidence,’ and choosing to ignore all that to start a different fight.
Looks like the issue was with the source and the comm you posted it in (worldnews is for articles not comics)
And it was expressly stated if you uploaded the comics to an appropriate comm without the tainted controversial source it would be perfectly fine. Have you tried uploading them to !comicstrips@lemmy.world ? Was it removed from there?
In any case, JordanLund is not an admin so worst case they’d just be a rogue mod, my evidence directly points to admin (e.g. dessalines and davel) censorship, mandates and propaganda pushing which is far worse. It speaks directly to the Tankie agenda they’re using their instance for
Please read the linked comment and down from there. For more context on why the specific site is brought up read up slightly.
Still, it’s a bad moderation decision, not nearly as bad as having instance admins actively push a narrative and their personal political agenda like what is going on with .ml
Also please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic.
I do not, from what I’ve seen they’re rightfully critical of the Israeli government and it’s policies and mere criticism of a religion is not anti-Semitic and in fact all religions should be openly criticized
cm002, I have no dog in this fight, and lemme say, I love having no dog in this fight.
But if someone tells you that you have too much evidence and they aren’t going to engage with it, and then instead pivots to trying to force you to engage with their points, and devolves to “please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic…” This is just a suspicion, and I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure they’re not engaging you in good faith.
Eh maybe maybe not, sometimes it’s an opportunity to get them to spill more that others will see than they might have. That’s why I did my best to ensure to keep calling back to the real point, .ml’s crap
As far as the whole comic thing goes, that’s genuine, fuck the Israeli government and trying to conflate any and all criticism against them as “anti-Semitism”
A “big fuss” with a whole lot of documentation:
From censorship, bans and bias towards their “in crowd”:
https://lemmy.world/post/27674360
https://lemmy.world/post/27674117
https://lemmy.world/post/27673934
https://lemmy.world/post/27673724
https://lemmy.world/post/27577337
https://lemmy.world/post/27378634
https://lemmy.world/post/27346630
https://lemmy.world/post/27341283
https://lemmy.world/post/27288224
https://lemmy.world/post/27156418
https://lemmy.world/post/27054157
https://lemmy.world/post/27008261
To altering headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:
https://lemmy.world/post/27428838
https://lemmy.world/post/27416097
https://lemmy.world/post/27314050
https://lemmy.world/post/27288953
That spew Russian talking points like Ukraines invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
To general hostility to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
To their open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
To even "concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
It is crazy how obsessed you are with .ml while .world is calling cartoons critical of Israel “antisemitism”.
So your reply to… 20 links, is to complain that someone is documenting well (“obsessed”) and then make one claim against the entire instance with one supporting link?
I have a massive problem with .world. There’s a reason I’m not on it. But the .world liberal problem doesn’t undo the .ml tankie problem. Two things can be true.
20 links linking to his own posts. At least the first 3 did.
Those three links were posts of screenshots of mod actions? If I was doing a big, hyperfocus-style, documenting-things kind of thing, I wouldn’t link directly to the modlog for a lot of reasons. I’d link to a screenshot of the modlog. That way, people can see the thing I want to point out, and then if they want, go verify that it’s in the modlog.
Normally I wouldn’t wade into this obvious shitshow, but I have a massive pet peeve of a person dismissing another person’s argument with, “There’s too much evidence.” I get not wanting to comment individually on each and every thing they posted, who has the time, but for “I don’t want to engage with all this content,” there’s the option of not commenting at all. Telling someone that their point is invalid because they have too much content is really really really frustrating for me. That might be my neurodivergence but…
But, “your point is wrong because there’s too much evidence and I don’t wanna read it” isn’t a counterargument to the original point being made. And making a counterpoint of, “but here’s MY argument and MY evidence and I want you to engage with THAT” is… not what good faith debate should look like. If you can’t be bothered to engage with the original point being made, using it to pivot a discussion to your own point is… rude.
They have no evidence. They link questions to Liberals who ask rhetorical questions, such as “how can anyone in good faith support China and Russia” and then paste generic propaganda their post which all apply to America a thousand times more.
These are deeply unserious people who do nothing but concern troll on asklemmy. Spouting nonsense and putting a question mark after it.
And likely alt accounts of cm002 as he always complains about Hexbear and Lemmygrad while we cannot even see their posts on .world
I have to say, I read your comment, then went back and actually looked at the first three links they posted. None were rhetorical questions. Are you looking at something somewhere else that I’m not aware of?
But it doesn’t… Like I’m not actually interested in your fight. I just have a massive pet peeve about someone coming in, seeing a wall of links called ‘evidence,’ and choosing to ignore all that to start a different fight.
I clicked one at random. You read all the links with evidence right? You love link spam apparently and think it is enough to win any argument.
It is in their list. Good luck finding it.
Ok and where is your linked evidence?
https://lemmy.world/comment/16040116
Looks like the issue was with the source and the comm you posted it in (worldnews is for articles not comics)
And it was expressly stated if you uploaded the comics to an appropriate comm without the tainted controversial source it would be perfectly fine. Have you tried uploading them to !comicstrips@lemmy.world ? Was it removed from there?
In any case, JordanLund is not an admin so worst case they’d just be a rogue mod, my evidence directly points to admin (e.g. dessalines and davel) censorship, mandates and propaganda pushing which is far worse. It speaks directly to the Tankie agenda they’re using their instance for
Please read the linked comment and down from there. For more context on why the specific site is brought up read up slightly.
Also please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic.
Still, it’s a bad moderation decision, not nearly as bad as having instance admins actively push a narrative and their personal political agenda like what is going on with .ml
I do not, from what I’ve seen they’re rightfully critical of the Israeli government and it’s policies and mere criticism of a religion is not anti-Semitic and in fact all religions should be openly criticized
cm002, I have no dog in this fight, and lemme say, I love having no dog in this fight.
But if someone tells you that you have too much evidence and they aren’t going to engage with it, and then instead pivots to trying to force you to engage with their points, and devolves to “please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic…” This is just a suspicion, and I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure they’re not engaging you in good faith.
Eh maybe maybe not, sometimes it’s an opportunity to get them to spill more that others will see than they might have. That’s why I did my best to ensure to keep calling back to the real point, .ml’s crap
As far as the whole comic thing goes, that’s genuine, fuck the Israeli government and trying to conflate any and all criticism against them as “anti-Semitism”