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Instructions: There are 72 objects on the table that one can use on me as desired.

Performance: I am the object. During this period I take full responsibility.

Duration: 6 hours (8pm–2am.) Studio Morra, Naples

  • a_mac_and_con@kbin.social
    21·
    1 year ago

    I can’t believe how there wasn’t a single person in the audience who tried to stop anyone. Other than the person who took the gun away from her head. Still. No one stopped the people trying to injure or assault her. No one called anyone out? It’s sickening.

    • GigglyBobble@kbin.social
      47·
      1 year ago

      I can’t believe how there wasn’t a single person in the audience who tried to stop anyone

      Yeah, that’s not what’s written in the Wikipedia article.

      Faced with her abdication of will, with its implied collapse of human psychology, a protective group began to define itself in the audience. When a loaded gun was thrust to Marina’s head and her own finger was being worked around the trigger, a fight broke out between the audience factions.

      • a_mac_and_con@kbin.social
        4·
        1 year ago

        I should stop trying to read things when I haven’t slept.

        Now I’m wondering why the entire audience fled when she finally moved. No one stuck around to ask if she needed help or anything?

      • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.ccEnglish
        18·
        1 year ago

        but it is what any human being would do, given the right circumstances.

        Bullshit. The experiment you linked isn’t even close to what this is:

        They measured the willingness of study participants, 40 men in the age range of 20 to 50 from a diverse range of occupations with varying levels of education, to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience.

        Participants were led to believe that they were assisting an unrelated experiment, in which they had to administer electric shocks to a “learner”.

        The people who violate the performer aren’t instructed, in any way, by an authority figure, and the act isn’t conflicting with their personal believe. They are psychopath.

        • Bjornir@programming.devEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          She says she takes full responsibility for what happens at the beginning. This is a big part of the milgram experiment : the scientist takes responsibility for what happens and is an important part of what explains the behavior.

          • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            If someone lays a gun on a table and tells you you can do anything with the gun and you believe that is an authority figure telling you to shoot them with them with the gun then I don’t want to be anywhere near you and encourage you to rethink some shit.

          • dmention7@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            She says she takes full responsibility for what happens at the beginning.

            Exactly. She abdicated the audience of any responsibility, which basically meant that the things that people did to her are what they would in principle do to any other person if they believed there would be no consequences for their actions.

            Nobody in their right mind would have assumed she wanted to have a gun pointed at her head or be sexually assaulted, or even had consented to them. But because she willingly put herself in a position where that might happen (i.e., no consent, but no active resistance), certain people took that to mean it was okay to do those things.

            There is only the tiniest sliver of a difference between this and any other situation where you strongly believe that you won’t face consequences for your actions. How is what people did to her any different than doing the same shit to someone who was passed out drunk or even fully conscious but not in a position to defend themselves or report you?

      • _jonatan_@lemm.eeEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        You should probably read the link you posted, because the results of the milgram experiment as touted by media is not really representative of what happened.