• Nudge@lemmy.ml
      5·
      18 days ago

      I used (for a short time) to maintain a usage of Twitter instead of X, to participate on pissing of Musk along with the crowd, but to me it makes no sense anymore, X is indeed not what Twitter was years ago. It’s not a name rebranding anymore, we all here know that. And IMO, Rust would not have left Twitter, like I wouldn’t have. We left X, with everything that new name carries with.

      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
        2·
        18 days ago

        Functionality changes, community and users are changing and off course the leadership, rights and branding changed. Right, I think its fair to distinguish the Musk era with his X branding, from the legacy Twitter. So I give you that.

  • Destide@feddit.ukEnglish
    97·
    20 days ago

    Surprised it didn’t rewrite it’s own X with blackjack and concurrency

      • kittenzrulz123
        98·
        20 days ago

        Lemmy was written in Rust?

        (Edit: damn, over 75% of the codebase is rust. Nice)

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
        1·
        19 days ago

        There could be. How would you know?

        Anyway, I don’t think the world needs 20 different alternatives to Twitter, just like we don’t need 20 alternatives to Linux, Python, the W3C, or Rust.

        What seems ideal is a single dominant system run by people whose authority comes from a broad consensus of the stakeholders, plus a limited number of competitors that could conceivably take over, but only if the dominant system is badly mismanaged. Having alternatives keeps the market leaders honest and provides space to try out new ideas that can either serve a different niche or be incorporated into the dominant system, but in a space where compatibility and network effects are so important, I want there to be a clear leader that most users can rally around, and that most developers can target to benefit the greatest number of users.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
      29·
      20 days ago

      It’s funny how many people care one way or another. It’s a programming language, and if I want updates, I’ll check their changelog. They have incredibly consistent releases, so why would I need a notification on SM when they release again on that schedule?

      I don’t get it. Post or don’t, I don’t care, just write good code.

    • lobut@lemmy.ca
      18·
      20 days ago

      Holy crap. I don’t go on Twitsack any more but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised the remaining people are clowns.

    • comfy@lemmy.ml
      9·
      19 days ago

      Honestly I’m laughing at those comments. Most of them are outright pathetic, not just sad or annoyed or smug but childish and pathetic.

  • turnip@lemm.eeEnglish
    17·
    19 days ago

    I’m happy with doing so just so I can see comments without signing in again. I do believe social media was geting too highly censored, and I dont trust the government to decide what to censor.

    But you cant call yourself the “town square of the internet” while hiding things from people you cant monetize.

    • comfy@lemmy.ml
      9·
      19 days ago

      Yep. Twitter and Discord are the two most annoying walled gardens I can think of when it comes to projects (like FOSS dev).

  • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org
    15·
    20 days ago

    Why are people using bluesky? Just use mastodon or something else federated. Stay are from centralized platforms

    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
      1·
      19 days ago

      First off they are using Mastodon. And secondly Mastodon is still pretty half baked as a platform. If it was as far along as Lemmy is, which is ironic because I think Mastodon was developed first, then people would probably be using it more. I just don’t think anyone’s putting in the man hours to streamline it the way they have with Lemmy.

      • alfredon996@feddit.it
        2·
        19 days ago

        Essentially it’s a centralized platform. Independent PDS cannot work without a big expensive relay managed by a large corporation

        • Natanael@infosec.pub
          1·
          19 days ago

          There’s work ongoing right now in making it easier to run a small appview, and the relay is cheaper to run than the appview and very manageable by even small companies

          • alfredon996@feddit.it
            2·
            18 days ago

            The relay is very expensive, it collects and receives messages from the whole network.

            The appview it’s not the problem, that’s just an user of the relay.

            See this article

            • Natanael@infosec.pub
              1·
              18 days ago

              The appview needs to index the relay contents to build a view of the whole network, the relay is just a type of CDN, and is NOT that expensive. There are multiple individuals maintaining full copies right now, while the network is at double digit millions of users. The relay is by far less expensive.

              You’re looking at poorly matched cloud options in that article. The individuals doing it does it easily on a NAS and equivalent. The cost from running public relays will come from traffic, not storage

              It’s the appview that needs to be made lighter, and that work is progressing. Like building variants you can self host which are selective and only care about content from your network (and only fetching other content as needed)

              • alfredon996@feddit.it
                1·
                18 days ago

                The appview needs to index the relay contents to build a view of the whole network, the relay is just a type of CDN, and is NOT that expensive. There are multiple individuals maintaining full copies right now, while the network is at double digit millions of users. The relay is by far less expensive.

                Great, but how much do these people pay to maintain a relay of the entire network? I bet a lot more than for a fediverse server that only has to maintain a small fraction of the whole network.

                There is another problem: these other relays are all copies of the Bluesky relay, where the official app publishes the messages of its users, so they are not independent from each other; if I publish my posts on a relay other than Bluesky’s I will not be able to communicate with them.

                • Natanael@infosec.pub
                  2·
                  18 days ago

                  Fediverse servers can quickly get more expensive if you have a few thousand users, or even a few dozen but somebody has a post go viral. That’s because every retrieval of a post always goes to the original user’s server, every like does too, etc, and this generates a flood of events which quickly gets expensive to process.

                  Just ask the maintainers of the botsin.space Mastodon server who couldn’t afford to keep it running, and now put the server in archival mode and not allowing new posts.

                  A PDS only publishes static data and don’t have to process incoming events, making it very easy to run one behind a caching server very cheaply.

                  There is another problem: these other relays are all copies of the Bluesky relay, where the official app publishes the messages of its users, so they are not independent from each other; if I publish my posts on a relay other than Bluesky’s I will not be able to communicate with them.

                  Not entirely correct.

                  Every individual users’ account host (PDS) publishes directly locally, the relay then collects published posts from known PDS servers (including both bluesky’s own and others’ self hosted servers) and display everything. A PDS server can sync to multiple relays. Relays can even sync to each other, which is practical because PDS servers publish through content addressing for posts in user repositories so it’s easy to verify completeness.

                  So sure if somebody uses an app connected to a filtering / partial / out of sync relay they might not see everything. This is not an architectural limit in the protocol, however.

  • tengkuizdihar@programming.dev
    8·
    19 days ago

    I still dont get why people use bluesky. I mean if you really want a pseudo federated social media, might as well use twitter and not migrate. Its ridiculous.

    • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
      24·
      19 days ago

      I assume people want something centralised like Twitter but without Musk. Most people don’t care about federation and don’t want the extra complexity and division it causes.

      • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        2·
        19 days ago

        It doesn’t create division if properly designed, and Mastodon honestly does it rather well generally. There are just two things that hampered its adoption, which was the bad “default” app everyone installed as well as the network’s inability to scale absurdly fast.

        It’s like with proper cities with lots of stores vs. big box stores. The latter might got everything in one place, but it fucks up everything around it. And a well designed city with lots of small stores is way more beautiful and pleasing in every aspect.

        ^(Yes I watch NotJustBikes, how do you know?)^

    • mke@programming.dev
      2·
      18 days ago

      if you really want a pseudo federated social media

      The vast majority of people don’t, they simply want something like what Twitter was before elon ruined it. If the Twitter exodus resulted in mass adoption of federated platforms, it’d be a happy coincidence.

  • VitoRobles@lemmy.todayEnglish
    0·
    20 days ago

    I don’t understand why any business is active on any social media, especially ones run by billionaires.

    Post your shit to a website.

    Have it auto-mirror to a social media platform.

    Funnel questions back to your own website.

    Done.

    • MXX53@programming.dev
      1·
      20 days ago

      I have been recently reminiscing with some friends about the internet back when instead of massive websites that held everything, there were small forums with specialized focus. You could get to know the people in the forums over time. It was so much better than the shit that exists today.

      I would love to join forums made by these projects. I don’t care if I have to have a bunch of accounts. Individual forums and RSS feeds are awesome. Since moving to RSS I have drastically reduced my mindless scrolling.