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Lidl’s got their fucking ground covered. They are not even just in Europe. They’re a major brand even in the USA. Same with Aldi. These two cheap discounters are not messing around.
Small hint: it should be Aldi Süd. Not Sud.
Sud is disgusting (basically meat juice) while Süd is a „direction“.
In my town (in America) there is literally a lidl and aldi across the street from each other
I like to imagine the staff get into fights
They probably do dance-offs.
Sued
Metro is B2B-only in Belgium, their B2C stores (Makro) no longer exist.
Think they’re B2B in Germany as well.
My whole childhood was spent at the Makro, sad that it’s gone
Same in France
In Czechia, you need to legally be an entrepreneur/bussines to get the free Makro membership to shop there.
Yeah, you need a VAT number.
It used to be like that in Makro as well, but people basically would use the data of some self-employed uncle to get cards for the entire family, so they dropped the VAT-restriction (but card was still mandatory)
Think they’re B2B in Germany as well.
You are correct
Auchan still operates in russia. https://leave-russia.org/auchan
I feel like it would maybe be more useful to see which American chains, if any, operate in Europe.
It seems half the supermarkets here in Dennark are Norwegian chains, for some reason. Not sure if there are any non-European ones around.
This map is still useful to remind everyone that Auchan is an amoral American style corporation that keeps doing doing it’s best to keep a fascist country attacking Europe well supplied.
where Spar?
Aldi Süd and Nord are not really the same chain
Recently, they started cooperating more and their distribution is mutually exclusive. Yet, it might be better to have them in different colours.
Ah interesting. Maybe the families made up.
Not sure I’d push Tesco as a great company. They are pioneers of data collection through the Clubcard and absolutely hammer you on price if you don’t have one.
As someone who doesn’t have a club card and never will. I do have to shop in Tesco occasionally for smaller things but I have noticed the savings aren’t as much anymore. This is not to justify it, I think there was a big push to get your data and now they have it, they are rolling back to the benefits.
Not that the prices were that great anyway, just brought things down to normal prices.
Edit - also screw you sainsburys for exactly the same thing.
It’s not really a benefit though, club card gets the normal price and without you pay extra
Poland’s gonna get them all!
Is Billa a franchise? If it is, I would open one in Poland, just to finish the collection.
We had Billa branded stores ca. 2006.
They suck.
Coops tend to be far better.
And they give eggs :)
None of these chains are present in Norway. Lidl tried years ago and gave up. We only have some Norwegian chains here.
Interesting enough, the chains in this graphic that operate in Germany are German. Apart from some small outlets, the German market is controlled by German chains. It’s just that these also became relatively successful internationally.
Aldi is really successful in the US now https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vT5-cV4oMY8&t=19s&pp=ygUIV3NqIGFsZGk%3D
Norway has SPAR, right?
We do, but in an odd way. One of the Norwegian chains use Spar as a brand for some of their stores.
Interesting. Where can I read more about this? Searching for SPAR and Norway seems to suggest that it’s just a regular part of SPAR.
Norgesgruppen lista SPAR as one of their brands/concepts. Unfortunately, their Norwegian / English toggle doesn’t work, but this is the Norwegian version: https://www.norgesgruppen.no/om-oss/om-oss-hjem/
Interesting. I guess they just license the brand in that case.
Don’t worry about the Norwegian, it’s mutually intelligible with Swedish
Yeah, your nick gives you away, it I didn’t think about that when writing that 😁
Tesco can fuck off though. Price increases during the pandemic and the profits when up way more than that, indicating greed.
They also force you to have a club card otherwise pretty much every item in the store costs more money.
Edit: Also, why isn’t Asda on this list? It’s owned by a couple of brothers from the UK now. Not that it’s any better than Tesco.
I thought it was owned by Walmart tbh, but apparently they sold most of it. They still retain 10% shares though.
Yeah it was sold a few years ago to a couple of brothers who made their money in petrol forecourts.
Interesting it’s people like this I really don’t understand. Like if I had a fraction of the money to be able to buy Asda, I’m going to retire and enjoy my hobbies. I don’t get how you would want to make more money.
I’ve come to realize that a lot of these billionaires have mental illness, with some form of OCD/ Hoarding Syndrome. If someone hoarded cats, or newspapers, or junk cars, or any other single item the way these people hoard money when they already have more than they or all of their descendants could ever use, everyone would recognize them as having a mental illness.
But somehow, being so driven to accumulate MORE money, and to even conspire with other financial hoarders to take over entire nations to loot their economies, is considered an accepted aspect of capitalism.
Yes it truly baffles me how we have fostered this society.
I was listening to Gary from Gary’s Economics on the Diary of a CEO and he was tearing into the hosts on that show. What struck me is that Daniel, the host, seemed to have this simplistic view that if you want more money become an entrepreneur. Kind of glossing over the fact most people don’t want that, they want to earn enough money doing regular work. Then I don’t think he has even considered what the world would look like with Doctors, Trash Collectors, etc if everybody becomes an entrepreneur.
Then the owner will of the show Stephen shared a story about his mate who got rich and left the UK cause of the taxes. And again I can’t comprehend getting rich in a country and then leaving cause they want me to pay my fair share. I am happy to pay tax for the greater good, I just wish everybody paid their fair share.
Aldi left Denmark about a year ago. Might have been more.
Auchan is one of the shadiest there is. Still operating in Russia with no intention of leaving.
In Portugal I usually stick to Continente or Pingo Doce (both Portuguese capital owned, I think), and sometimes Lidl for some products that are only sold there.
Oh, and Normal (which I think is scandi) is really good to buy name brands.
Spar, that is basically Global now
And Billa is Rewe, including: Penny, Nahkauf, Adeg, BIPA, Toom, DER, …
Some patterns jump out:
- None of them have presence in Norway.
- They all skip Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, and North Macedonia.
- But some are in Croatia.
Curious, why?
Between Coop, Rema and Norgesgruppen(Meny, Kiwi, Spar etc.) nobody have really been able to establish themselves. Lidl tried but only laster a couple years or so.
Well, in Norway we have a cartel/triopoly which is not good. Lidl tried to establish here, but were quickly squeezed out of competition.
Sounds like our situation here in Sweden (ICA, coop, Axfood).
the countries listed at 2 hardly compare to croatia in most things. croatia has a thriving tourism industry and more money. they just skip the worst-off part of europe
Also Norway is not part of the EU or the customs union. Together with pretty harsh tariffs on agricultural products in direct competition with Norwegian agriculture. Lidl couldn’t import and dump prices on staple products in meat and dairy. They also had stores that was so different from what we were used to it alienated lots of customers. Not a big loss tbh, it’s a shite chain anyway.
That being said there are issues with this sector in Norway with three operators with more and more vertical integration. No real competition
I think most countries also have a local chain that is not here, there are many more companies where you can get groceries than mentioned here, also big companies that operate in 1 or 2 countries.
