Where is the outrage? Where have all the “humans” gone? Israel slaughtered over 300 innocent civilians in Gaza last night. Most of them women and children.
None of those with #Ukraine, #Canada, #Mexico and #EU flags on their profile raising their voice condemning this outrageous crime.
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The sheikh wandered around the city with a lamp
I’m tired of all the devils and the death, and seeking one human
They said it cannot be found, we have searched, As we said before
That which cannot be found I desire
Rumi
دی شیخ با چراغ همی گشت گرد شهر
کز دیو و دد ملولم و انسانم آرزوست
گفتند یافت می نشود جسته ایم ما گفت
آن که یافت می نشود آنم آرزوست
#poetry #Rumi #Gaza #Inhumanity #Death #politics #Israel #Genocide #WarCrime
@palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe @israel @iran
Tbh I had no idea until now. Seriously, fuck Israel. They are worse than Russia at this point.
Always has been. Not to say Russia hasn’t also been terrible, this kind of ethnic cleansing has been central to Zionism before Israel even existed
Not at this point, always have been.
Don’t get how some people can be supportive of that
Always have been.
Governments are largely those who decide what will be outraged by the majority of people.
There have been protests for east Congo here in Belgium and now Rwanda is cutting ties with my country for siding with Congo. It’s a conflict that started in 2022 but I had no idea. It was just not covered. I still have no idea.
Palestine Israel conflict is well covered. I saw it on the news today, it was an hour long discussion. They showed Oxfam commercial about it, which includes a Belgian young celebrity. She then spoke about it.
The outrage bout Gaza is more present in the younger generation.
Politician of the social democrats at the table said that she hopes that Europe will put sanctions, as it’s part of the trade agreement that it will be abolished when human rights aren’t being respected.
Trump is choosing the side of murderers with money in each conflict.
*Looks through comments … I think I found the outrage.
too busy vandalising Teslas I presume.
Priorities for the libsvandalising Teslas
Not nearly enough of that going on to keep us from protesting. TBF we could stand to be burning a few more teslas AND get in some solid protesting.
Would be nice to have a community covering protests and amateur journalists anonymously posting, but then I don’t want the government farming videos of that for targets.
Nobody can have nice things I suppose.
One of them got so mad when I said Tesla has become the plastic straw moment of Americans today.
It had to retreat to its safe space of ultimate moral superiority, poor thing.
Where is the outrage?
It’s there but media and the government are not covering it.
I’ve seen plenty of articles on both the Guardian as well as the Dutch state broadcaster. Both have liveblogs with frequent updates.
Those 2 will surely mention Israhell has the right to defend itself.
They both cited Israel’s given reason for the attack, the response from Hamas, the critique and condemnation from the UN, human rights organizations and several world leaders, as well as an expert opinion explaining that this could mean the end of the ceasefire.
Both were factual and neutral in their reporting.
Did they mention that Israel is blatantly lying about its reason?
Did they mention that Israel has repeatedly violated the ceasefire?
Did they identify that Israel is committing genocide?
Did they avoid calling the government of Gaza “a terrorist organisation”
Did they avoid calling IDF soldiers taken as prisoners of war “hostages”?
@index I’m not seeing it on social media either.
Some small scale actions but nothing like those in south korea or other places
@index I’m not seeing it on social media either.
On the fediverse there is
“In order for me to write poetry that isn’t political, I must listen to the birds, and in order to hear the birds, the warplanes must be silent.” -Marwan Makhoul
I’m so disgusted by hypocrisy of all the blue MAGAts so disgustingly silent about Trump bombings of Yemen and massacre in Gaza
These hypocrites were so loud about tariffs against Canada and Mexico
it’s because they are terrorists
Indeed, which is ironic, given that their justification for their campaigns of extermination in the middle east is always “but Arabs are terrorists!”
yeah more like just hamas and houthis and their supporters
Yeah yeah, just like Nelson Mandela
in that he laid down arms and made peace and eventually governed the whole country?
that madiba?
Yes, he too was a terrorist.
They don’t care about things that do not impact them, or people near them.
It affects them so you know what they will care and removed about.
They are even worse than maga bcs they’re so disgustingly self absorbed and pretentious they think they are on the right side.
I really hope they get what they deserve.Ukraine affects me as a fellow European.
I’m not on the right side, I just want my family to live in peace.
Tariffs don’t matter. The energy crisis didn’t matter. COVID restrictions didn’t matter. Those are just economic struggles.
It’s safety that matters most.
Israel has been expanding their territory over the past century, it has been well covered by the media every time there’s stuff happening. I remember Israeli taking the home of a Palestine family and the Palestinians just had to leave. This was a few years prior to the Hamas shooting at a festival.
If governments weren’t handling Ukraine situation, energy crisis, COVID, etc. Then nothing would be happening.
There’s people on the street here in Belgium, mostly young people and people from middle Eastern descent.
This is sadly how mainstream liberals have always behaved. I remember when all the anti-war folks seemed to disappear into thin air once Obama got elected. I guess extrajudicial drone strikes are cool when Democrats do it.
This is exactly the problem with lumping in everyone who is not a Trump supporter as “liberals”. You end up with this completely misguided impression of who “liberals” are and what “liberals” do. It’s become a meaningless term.
Liberals as in a supporter of liberal or neoliberal economics, the Democratic Party is neoliberal. There were absolutely liberals who would justify the US striking Yemeni civilians and civilian infrastructure (like the commercial airport) as “FAFO, get rekt terrorists” because the Houthis had the morally correct position of imposing a blockade to apply pressure on the US and Israel to end the genocide. Which the Houthis followed through and stopped implementing the blockade during the ceasefire. All in the context of Yemen being under a US-Saudi-Israeli backed genocide that’s been ongoing for years.
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The poem is beautiful. This is truly the greatest moral stain of this generation upon the West; to have supported genocide, and not any genocide but the clearest case of genocide in this supposed era of ‘progress’ and ‘open-mindedness’ There is no progress, people are clearly just as racist, imperialistic and backward as they were in the 100s of years ago. A genocide unfolded and the ‘enlightened West’ watched on. How will you get the blood off your hands?
There is no progress, people are clearly just as racist, imperialistic and backward as they were in the 100s of years ago.
Don’t fall for the propaganda and don’t lose hope people are smart, governments are spending billions to brainwash them and keep them stupid, they are spending so much that they are in damage control because they can’t keep up with it.
The same way that this same regime got the blood of the native Americans off its hands: you bury it in history books so that only intellectuals will learn of the full genocidal scope of it all while the rest ignore them, it, and label anyone trying to warn the rest about it as tankies or malcontents.
Yes, but the ready excuse for the genocides of the past is, ‘That was a barbaric age, everyone was awful. We are enlightened now. See, we gave gay people rights!’ Well clearly, nothing has changed. They are still barbarously cruel. But since you’re from lemmy.ml, I imagine you already know.
yes, preaching to the choir; but it needs to be said out-loud/in-writing nonetheless for the those who aren’t aware.
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Why would US Arabs vote for Harris? They have nothing to lose. Both parties are unwavering in their pro-genocide foreign policy, what difference does it make to the relatives they lost? A person is most concerned with their immediate relations; their family, community and homeland. After so much death and destruction, personal loss and gaslighting by the media, why would they even give a shit? When you lose family, you lose everything.
It is strange you decide to criticise the powerless Arab voters instead of the Democrats who had all the power, money and influence to stop the genocide if they wanted to. But they didn’t; they didn’t care when Rafah was bombed and they don’t care now, because they never cared about Palestinians. This would have happened even if the Dems had won. Punching down instead of punching up won’t help; it simply makes you look like a selfish person who is only concerned with their issues. Criticise those in power, who had it coming because they had all the means to prevent this.
No, Israel-Palestine would likely be very different right now had Harris won. I don’t think it would be where we want it to be, and people like you would probably be saying how Trump would have fucked it up so hard that there’d have been no choice but to ceasefire or some such dumb ass mental gymnastics, but it is pretty obvious to anyone even minimalist informed that Harris/Dem admin would have been a VERY different situation for US support to Netanyahu.
That said, it’s a waste of time to punch down, like you said. A not insignificant number of Arab American voters made a really stupid and poorly thought out choice, but nevertheless, a larger number of the electorate at large made a choice actually expecting this to happen. They are largely to blame and Republicans in general, from voter to elected, should be held responsible.
‘Vote blue no matter who’ people like to say that it would have been different (with the implication that different would be better) but they very rarely say how.
The few times they do say how, it’s generally the work of minutes to one documentation of Biden doing the exact same thing.
So.
How?
How would it have been different? And, because I’m emotionally drained from dealing with my cat dying, I’m going to specify that it actually has to be better, not just different.
We literally told her and the Dems what needed to happen in order to get our vote: commit to BDS. But they refused, and instead ran two very different campaign ads in SE Michigan and the rest of the country. That was our compromise and that was the Dem’s choice, not ours.
Don’t forget, voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil.
people like you would probably be saying how Trump would have fucked it up so hard that there’d have been no choice but to ceasefire or some such dumb ass mental gymnastics
I sincerely doubt it.
I’m glad you found a way to blame a small amount of Muslims for this over the other… 70 million-ish people who voted for Trump.
It’s more important for democrats to not change a single thing then it is to defeat the republicans.
But don’t you see? It’s the people that voted for Harris that are at fault somehow!
Hey, your country might be actively burning, but at least you can get some happiness from the fact that that people who didn’t vote with you (they didn’t vote against you either, but that’s not perfect enough) are dying, even though your leadership explicitly kicked them out of your party.
STFU
It’s so disgusting to watch libs brigade these threads victim blaming while claiming that their party that was actively facilitating the genocide has some moral superiority.
The “I’m not pro-genocide I just seem to post in every thread about the situation getting worse to gloat” crowd are a wild bunch
Seriously, genocide is the lowest bar ever to clear and yet Dems somehow managed to limbo their way under it.
And now they’re pointing the finger at everything but themselves for their election loss, as if it’s not their job to run candidates that are actually… electable.
it’s especially galling when democrats themselves were the one to cause election loss; but democrats proclaim it’s the leftists that caused it.
Right. Leftists are simultaneously so irrelevant as to be not worth embracing and so numerous as to cause the loss of every election. It’s like the Dem version of “lazy migrants stealing all our jobs” cognitive dissonance.
“Enemy is both strong and weak” is the classic fascist rhetorics, plus those fascists jumped right in interesting implication of both treating leftists and muslims as enemy and somehow feeling entitled to their votes.
@yogthos it’s really infuriating
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He’s not necessarily wrong. Muslims at least in Michigan voted exactly for this when they helped elect Trump.
They voted for the candidate that promised peace and wasn’t actively doing genocide. Trump lied when he promised peace, clearly, but grave dancing because voters were tricked is vile.
We should be agitating them to action instead.
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LudwigVonPseudonym loves genocide
I was trying to warn them what was coming
Except that it was already happening, you were just a genocide denier about it when it was your team doing it.
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Incase anyone had any doubt that BlueMAGA lib are every bit the sadistic fascists that their red counterparts are:
How fucking unsurprising of the white supremacist fascist subhuman trash that you are that you come into a Palestine comm and assume everyone is an American. Because you literally don’t realize that non-westerners are human beings that exist in real life. Of course you’ll sleep like a baby while your government exterminates hundreds of thousands: you’re an inhuman monster who loves genocide. You’re getting exactly what you wanted.
Trump is a fascist liar. That’s a well-known fact way before the first time he was elected. There’s no excuse for having voted for him in the first place. Anyone who did so is a fucking idiot who’s only going to make the misery spread far beyond Gaza now.
I consider spreading misery to the US to be good and right: you fucks have no problem supporting the most inhuman acts to me and mine, you deserve to suffer for that.
Biden is another fascist liar. That is also a well-known fact.
And while you’re scolding voters for being idiots, the fascist is consolidating power.
We need to work together, not bicker over a mistake people made months ago. Especially since voting might not matter anymore.
Anyone that realistically thought Trump would help Palestine is a moron. Netanyahu is the person who is leading what is going on in Palestine and has applauded Trump on numerous occasions. It also wasn’t just Biden Congress was the one giving weapons to Israel and they have voting records.
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024217 what do you know almost all republicans
Biden was actively going around Congress to give Israel more weapons
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The Democrats were already doing that you genocide denying fuck. At least under Trump, you BlueMAGA fascists will at least admit that it’s happening
Trump has always been a liar, this is not an excuse.
So have Biden and Harris, and they were actively in the middle of a genocide on election day
Anyone with a lick of common sense knew how this was going to go under Trump. At least had the slightest chance to be different under Harris…
He literally was calling Biden a “very bad Palestinian” during their debate as if it was an insult…
Just going to deny that this was already happening under the democrats with the full support of Harris. Anyone who isn’t a genocide denier knew how this would go under Harris, at least we got a few weeks of ceasefire under Trump
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There was no chance that it was going to be different under Harris, and people who keep repeating this are the worst kinds of trolls.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that if it makes ya feel better. Wonder if you will still think that once Trump builds a golf course there for him and buddy Netanyahu
you actually expected people whose relatives are being bombed with American munitions, to vote for the ‘most lethal military in the world’ candidate?
You liberals are really something. But you’re here blaming Muslims for not voting. In America. You don’t seem very smart, so maybe the history of Muslims and America is lost on you.
Again: You want the victims of the American military, to turn around and vote for ‘the most lethal military in the world candidate? No wonder America is where it is today. People like you.
Trump says all the same shit and worse, so I don’t get why you’re going on about that. The whole deal with that was to try to get some of the non-crazy conservatives to vote for her as a last ditch effort on a short-run campaign. It was all about appealing to conservatives that weren’t fully on board with Trump.
American Muslims got what they voted for. You reap what you sow. I know plenty enough to realize one wasn’t as bad as the other.
Actions seem to speak louder than words here. He OK’d the attacks last night. Hope Trump reigns it in but anyone that knows anything about his psycho ass knows he is just getting started
Edit: should also mention, he’s already started deporting pro-Palestine protestors here in the US…
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I’m not the one trying to make myself feel better. I don’t even live in yankeestan. It’s the liberals like you who keep pretending that the genocidal party you support who are doing the coping here. You don’t have any moral superiority. The only difference is that Trump isn’t making any excuses and hand wringing regarding the atrocities he commits, while you do mental gymnastics to justify doing the same thing. It’s pathetic beyond belief.
Well in that case I’ll just sit back and not give a shit lol. Let Trump level that place
Ain’t gonna affect me anyways so why bother, right?
You barely even have to scratch liberals anymore and they go full fascist
that’s the liberal spirit
Yeah that’s fucking delusion.
