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Israeli warplanes bombed Gaza overnight, bringing an end to the Israel-Hamas ceasefire after two months.
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they’re pretty much good to go now that tiktok and reddit have been censored
I was actually still surprised to see that some Luigi praise has been getting through on TikTok.
Rednote is still better though.
Good use of editorial passivity. Ceasefire just “ended”, it wasn’t broken.
I also like, “Israeli bombs strike Gaza”. How did Israel’s bombs get up in the sky? Did they not expect them to fall to the ground and explode?
How about “Israel bombs Gaza”?
Just like Israel has prisoners but Hamas has hostages, although functionally there is no difference.
400+ Palestinians killed already. Many dead babies on my timeline.
Israel also took advantage of the ceasefire to kill top Hamas officials who are protected under the ceasefire. Zionist pigs are the scum of the earth.
Why wouldn’t Israel restart the killings of top Hamas officials? Hamas declared war on them, the ceasefire ended without being extended, Hamas is still holding Israelis hostage and captive, and Hamas has not yet surrendered. Seems pretty expected tbh
Hamas complied with the ceasefire agreements. They released all the hostages designated by the first period of the ceasefire and negotiated the releases of the second period. Israel cut water and electricity while US demand Hamas to give it all in exchange for nothing, or at the very best in exchange for deportation of all palestinians = ethnical cleansing.
Israel is pushing the limits. But at this point it’s obvious saving the hostages is no longer in the priorities.
The ceasefire was still in effect. As long as talks were ongoing. And Israel sent a delegation last weekend for talks so they are ongoing.
Israel did not end the ceasefire it violated the ceasefire. Massively.
Simply not true, the first phase of the ceasefire explicitly lasted 42 days and came to an end on Feb 26.
Israel and mediators continued to attempt to negotiate after that date but the ceasefire itself and its agreed upon terms came to an end Feb 26, 42 days after the start of Phase 1 on Jan 15
The second phase went in which Israel instantly violated. But the negotiations were still ongoing. Meaning it was in effect.
While israel did violate the ceasefire more than 900 times with no real violations from Hamas, the ceasefire was officially still in effect. Israel also violated the ceasefire many times during the first 42 days and did not allow the promised aid in.
Yeah, most Israelis have no regard for humanity.
Democrats or Republicans, your rulers are Zionists.
Just First-past-the-post voting things.
Yep Cuck Schumer is a Zionist
There has been more movement towards changing that in the last year than I have seen in twenty years combined. Hope isn’t yet dead.
dont worry everyone we will have peace day 1
Jeez, and I seem to recall a few .ml accounts calling me a shitlib just before the inauguration because I didn’t think the orange dumbass was going to do anything to stop bibi from continuing murdering people within a couple months.
You must be extremely happy Trump is finally bombing Gaza too. Sure owned those tankies.
Definitely what I said
There have been 7 weeks of ceasefire this year. There would have been 0 under Biden.
wait…so if its biden its bad. but if its trump its “stop funding oversea wars” pot calling the kettle black a bit.
Both are bad. Between two bad options, the one that provides a 7 week ceasefire is better than the one that provides no ceasefire.
How are you so sure Harris wouldn’t do anything? I’m very curious where this all comes from. It’s funny because rep is like “stop wasting our tax money over seas” but when a president says “I won’t be a part of it” then reps say “oohhhhh they support genocide oohhhhhh”
Like dude. It’s a WAR overseas. Russia trampled Ukraine, shot and raped civilians. But what do reps say? “Stop funding a war overseas”.
Like hypocritical, just stfu. Eat your words or go away.
Harris’ rhetoric of a two-state solution and ceasefire were no different than than Biden’s rhetoric, both were not genuine. Both are on record for opposing the weapons embargo, which was THE way to force Israel is agree to the ceasefire. It was always empty rhetoric, meanwhile the administration continued to fund the genocide with billions of our tax payer dollars.
The rhetoric coming out of the White House, when it has been focused on peace or restraint, rather than continuous war, has been undercut at every turn by its actions. The constant supply of weapons — $17.9 billion of bullets, bombs, shells, and other military aid in the past year — has allowed Israel to keep waging its war on Gaza, and in recent weeks, expand that war to Lebanon and threaten to escalate its conflict with Iran. Despite documentation of U.S. weapons being used in probable war crimes, and credible allegations that Israel is committing genocide in its war on Gaza, the bombs have continued to flow.
Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars
Here Are 34 Polls That Show A Ceasefire & Weapons Embargo Help Kamala Win
Did Harris provide any small indication she would push for a ceasefire in Gaza? Did she regret anything the Biden administration do? No…
If you can’t have a civil discussion with someone who has a different opinion than you, it says a lot about your (lack of) character.
Okay then when did say anything about Gaza? Because I don’t recall anything at all. When did she say “yes, let this war continue I don’t care”
When she said she would not have done anything differently than Biden. That means refusing to apply any meaningful amount of pressure on Israel, even if it’s just for a temporary ceasefire deal.
Good thing Biden wasn’t on the ballot then
Harris went on record, repeatedly, claiming she would have done nothing differently than Biden.
People are being bombed to death in Gaza and your first instinct is to gloat about a political grievance. They were right to call you a shit lib.
Yep, my talking about tankies being wrong is gonna change bibi’s murderous campaign. Good job, you’ve solved the gaza situation with how pure your thoughts are.
I’m sure the people being deported for supporting Palestine are very happy the “genocide enabling” Democrats lost.
republicans will allow a genocide in Ukraine though right? and news flash, democrats dont enable genocide, we are in fact, very against it, and we also in fact, didnt like biden either
That is why I put “genocide enabling” in quotes.
I can’t imagine getting these orders, to break ceasefire, and actually executing them. It’s monstrous…
Ceasefire wasn’t broken it came to an end and neither party agreed on its extension.
This is completely false. Israel violated the active ceasefire.
Stage one
This officially lasted for 42 days, during which:
- Hamas released 25 living Israeli hostages and eight dead hostages
- Israel released about 1,900 Palestinian prisoners and detainees from Gaza
- Israeli forces left populated areas of Gaza
- Displaced Palestinians returned to their neighbourhoods
- Hundreds of aid lorries were allowed into Gaza each day
- Israeli troops remained in Gaza’s border areas, including the southern Philadelphi Corridor, and left the Netzarim Corridor, a military zone cutting off the north of Gaza from the south
Stage two
Negotiations on the second stage were meant to begin 16 days after the start of stage one - but this did not happen. Like stage one, stage two is also meant to be completed within 42 days.
Stage 1 began on Jan 15. 42 days after Jan 15 is Feb 26, so the ceasefire and its terms ended Feb 26, even though Israel did not attack right away.
Should a phase 2 have been negotiated it would have begun on Feb 27 at the conclusion of phase 1 but Hamas was not willing to budge on Israel’s demand for their surrender of control and Israel was not willing to budge on Hamas’ demand for returning control of the Netzarim corridor. So, at an impasse the phase 2 negotiations never occurred, the agreed upon terms of the ceasefire ended Feb 26, and as Israeli citizens are still being held captive dead and alive in Gaza, israel has resumed its offensive campaign to destroy hamas.
You don’t need to make things up dude
Didn’t Israel change the cease-fire agreement? They didn’t want to go into the second phase, which was initially agreed and start withdrawing troops. They just wanted to extend the first phase and get all of their hostages. And the fact that Ben Gvir is joining the coalition is quite telling that this might have been the plan from the beginning.
Negotiations on the second stage were meant to begin 16 days after the start of stage one - but this did not happen.
What were these people doing then?
Oh that’s awful. I thought the nightmare might finally be over.
Trump - “Israel should finish the job”
Israel - “Well, if you insist!”
Wonder what would be happening if we had President Harris right now. I mean, this attack would probably still be happening but at least under her protesting would be legal.
Wonder what would be happening if we had President Harris right now.
“Don’t do it”
sends bombs
Israel does it.
“I can’t believe you’ve done this!”
sends more bombs
If you look at how they cracked down on protests under Biden I wouldn’t be so sure about that protest part and that’s the actual tragedy.
Harris or Trump it doesn’t really matter. The difference is that Trump is mask off fuck diplomacy about it while the dems push the brakes a bit to try and keep up the "America good“ narrative that no one believes anymore anyways. As for the groups that were lucky enough to benefit from democrat cronyism, I genuinely feel sorry for them.
The American people got fucked over badly in this election, their political system failed them.
lol, yes that is exactly right. Everything between Harris and Trump is exactly the same except Trump’s diplomacy. You really have your finger on the pulse of world events.
As for the groups that were lucky enough to benefit from democrat cronyism, I genuinely feel sorry for them.
For most of the world, there is no appreciable difference.
Yeah that’s exactly why I added that paragraph. I genuinely feel sorry for the LBTQ community, the next years are gonna be really bad for them and the dems protected them. The dems were also sligthly better than Trump on migration, but Biden didn’t revert a lot of Trumps policies even though he could have.
And when we see ICE agents doing Soviet style arrests and when we hear stories of people in immigration detention being abused, do people really think all of this just magically popped up over night when Trump got in power?
And as for the Middle East, if you post a Trump Gaza video or strongly condemn the killing of civilians, for the people being bombed to shreds by American bombs that literally makes 0 difference. Biden could have stopped sending weapons, he could have voted for ceasefire resolutions, he could have literally bombed Netanyahu if he had wanted to, but he didn’t. He was happy to let the genocide unfold that Trump is now happy to continue.
But were the dems protecting e.g. the LBTQ community because they care about human rights? Fuck no. And most people on the planet are unfortunately not receiving any of the democrat cronyism so for them it honestly doesn’t matter much.
I mean, this attack would probably still be happening but at least under her protesting would be legal.
Okay, and? If that’s your pitch for “protest voters screwed over Gaza” it definitely ain’t convincing.
We’re past the point where that matters, but to be completely honest if you need more than “this one was at least willing to pretend to listen and this other guy will just deport you” I’m not skilled enough in debating to get you there. All I can do is comment on where we are.
And sadly this is just the restarting of the war. In the coming weeks and months I’m afraid that we’re going to see even more stark differences between what Trump does and what Harris would’ve done instead.
“this one was at least willing to pretend to listen and this other guy will just deport you” I’m not skilled enough in debating to get you there
Harris never pretended to listen. In fact she was very explicit about not listening. Also to be clear, I’m not saying there’s no difference between being able to protest and not being able to protest the genocide. However, that difference only matters for people in America; for people in Palestine it doesn’t fucking matter because nothing was going to come out of these protests anyway.
Exactly. She would be like: Terrorist state of Isreal has right to defend itself then giving more money to Isreal.
She wouldn’t condemn shit. They would have “concerns” and be “looking into it” like they were doing under Biden for 15 months.
Fixed it.
I wonder if they get their spirits up with the sound of the exploding and the sights of the smoke columns.
