I grew up listening to fundie christian parents babble at length how we were living in end times. And mocking them mercilessly (at first among my fiends, later to their faces) as often as possible.

Now look at us - on the brink of non-existence politically, environmentally, and civilizationally. Not sure that last one is a word.

If they were right I’m gonna have some 'splainin to do.

Dammit.

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    Self fulfilling prophecy. It’s a doomsday cult and they’re trying to bring the end times instead of waiting

    When they said we’re living in the end times it wasn’t a prediction it was a threat

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    If you have the time, I highly recommend the book “American Apocalypse” by Matthew Avery Sutton. Really digs into the history of this whole thing and helps you realize just HOW MUCH of this shit is truly self fulfilling prophecy. I’m currently working up the courage to gift it to my highly evangelical family and forcing them to read it.

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    If they were right it’s because of their ideology. They are the ones denying climate change and the ones supporting Trump. They aren’t prophets, they are the problem.

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    It’s more that it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    “The world will hate you,” so you’re antisocial and hateful in preparation. They do hate me! It’s all true!

    “There will be wars and rumors of wars,” so you vote for the defense hawks supporting the military complex. So many wars! It’s all true!

    “They won’t even tolerate your views, they’ll try to outlaw it!” So you try to ban them first. It’s all true!

    Why protect the temporary environment when you have eternal paradise waiting? Why do ANYTHING meaningful here when you have eternal paradise waiting.

    tl;dr: Death cult. Projection.

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        Not only that, but these bad things HAVE TO HAPPEN before the good things can come to pass. That’s the order of operations. Which leads to seeing the bad things and thinking, “YES!!! It’s haaaappeniiiiing!!!”

        You literally welcome disaster, because it proves you right, rather than working to prevent it.

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    yeah but its all going downhill because of people like them. christians are complicit in the demise of democracy.

    theyre causing their own doom so they can point it out. if they didnt exist, the world would be a better place.

    theres a great meme somewhere where the rapture happens and the world is an amazingly better place for it.

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    It’s been the “End Times” for the last 2000 years. They were full of shit then and they’re full of shit now.

    Their whole death cult is predicated on the world ending in a violent fiery ocean of blood so that they, the only good people who won’t be damned to a burning torturous eternal punishment, will ascend to a paradise of everlasting Jonestown. It’s sheer insanity. Malicious, cruel, psychopathic insanity.

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    I’ve read their book several times. Take some comfort from the fact that if they are right, all of them are on the side they thought they were against.

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      You must have skipped the Old Testament

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        Lol…i’ll admit that i’ve skipped over more of it. it’s a lot more tedious than the new one. i have my own path though and don’t need no stinking books. my god encompasses all gods and everything. no one can think of a greater god because mine will just eclipse it. it also doesn’t require worship because it has much more self-confidence than those little pussy gods.

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          Funny you say that given how petty and insecure Yahweh is in the OT.

          Definitely traits that I want to see in my all-knowing, all-powerful god… Jealousy and pettiness.

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    The oldest human writings are lost to history. But we can be assured that they bitterly complained about the young generation and predicted that the world would end soon.

    Sooner or later, one of the kooks will be right by coincidence.

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    America isn’t the world. It’s just a regime that will fall because of shortsightedness. If your Christian parents only think of the world as “America”, then I don’t think you owe them anything?

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      I’m going to make a point here, and I hope I am wrong, but I don’t think I am. If America falls apart, I think it will be the first one, not the only one. The influence America exerts on much of the rest of the world is huge, and the pressures on many other nations to follow any collapse with one of their own would be difficult to stop. Not just influence culturally, but economically, including but not limited to agriculture. Removing the agricultural influence provided by America alone will be devastating for much of the world (including non-agrarian parts America).

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    If the entire world dies for any of those reasons, it’s humanity’s own damn fault. There will be nothing supernatural about it. You won’t owe anyone any kind of explanation.