I watched a bit of the meeting, not the whole thing, but the bit where Trump and Vance started lashing out at Zelenskyy. There’s been a lot of talk about it on here, and I agree Trump and Vance are big man babies trying to bully Ukraine into an unfavorable deal, but I’m still not clear on how this affects, well, everything I guess. Can someone ELI5?
We really don’t know right now. The US essentially broadcast to the world that they are both diplomatically weak and compromised by the Russians and cannot be trusted or relied on. The meeting with Zelenskyy and the recent trade spats has indicated that the US can and will turn on its historic allies if Putin tells them to.
Beyond that point, everything is pure speculation. My guess? The US will continue to erode from within due to further economic and social disintegration. They are looking at a historic economic collapse which will severely impact the lives of US citizens. I can see them beginning to put increased pressure, possibly militarily, on Mexico and Canada as Trump uses the resources in said countries as a bargaining chip to placate US businesses that will start putting pressure on Trump. Once reality of the situation starts to hit the average US citizen then I think there is a very real possibility of civil revolt.
As for the EU, my guess is they will see a burst of increased unity and solidarity much like how Canada is now. Whether that lasts or will be acted upon remains to be seen, but I think it has become obvious to the EU leaders that Russia is a hostile power on their doorstep and they are on their own; the US will not help them. They will now have to contend with meddling and interference from both Russia and the US as both seek to disrupt and cause unrest in Europe. If the EU plays its cards right they could emerge from this stronger and more prosperous than ever. de Gaulle was absolutely right about the USA.
That is the sad propaganda fed by US empire used to submit them to Ukraine war they provoked. Ultimate CIA play to fight Russia with 0 US cost, while paying for US weapons. Russia should be looked at as a friend.
A government that will invade on the flimsiest of pretexts, kidnap your citizens, and lie constantly is anything but a “friend”.
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You are a useful idiot. Russia could have chosen not to invade a country with whom they had a treaty specifically saying they wouldn’t.
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine._Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
Ukraine’s constitution demands/ed it stays neutral. Budapest is not a suicide pact.
Riddle me this: does a country have to stay neutral if another country attacks them?
Hello comrade.
Obviously war on Russia is the smartest thing ever, and has historically been so successful. So the natural reaction when your main war sponsor backs away is to double down and buy that former sponsor’s weapons while sacrificing social spending to do it. Totally not what a CIA stooge that says “Fuck Europe” would say, and better be a CIA stooge than have a brain cell against suicide.
You really are a useful idiot, subtly blaming Ukraine for its own invasion.
It is so disturbing and shameful that people are walk around thinking this war was unprovoked. If that can’t be changed, you can still wake up and realize that pursuing failure would be stupid.
Do tell, how did Ukraine provoke the invasion?
It was a joint US/Ukraine provocation for sure. First, Ukraine’s nazification rule started with US coup in 2014, and US controlled IMF sabotaging/making Yanukovych’s EU trade deal impossible. US/west’s insincere participation in Russia’s peaceful attempt to deal with Ukrainian nazification and hostilities towards Russians, the Minsk accords, was an insincere delay tactic to arm Ukraine. The Apartheid laws against ethnic Russians, and US arming of nazi paramilitaries that killed over 5000 in Donbas since 2014. US’s open door NATO policy for Ukraine membership, and plans for missile bases there, together with ramp up of Donbas terrorism and no talks with Russia in early 2022, forced Russia’s SMO. The concerted western propaganda disrespecting Russia on its security is clear direct proof of evil intentions behind the provocation of the “desirable” war, named “a strategic US imperative (for it to continue indefinitely)” as well.
lol did the FSB give you this script? That’s like, every single one of Putin’s talking points, which are more or less complete horseshit