Summary

Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

  • wall_panel_96@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    After watching the trump, JD, zelensky situation, I lost a big of respect for JD. He acted like a twat. Trump is definitely a better president than him. President that is. They are both douchebags, but so far doing good for the country.

    • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      I’m curious, what good do you see trump doing for the country? It seems to me that he’s doing a lot of harm but we probably have differing views

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        Woman only in woman’s sports, sounds fair to me. Ending corruption in politics, giving soldiers who lost their jobs for not taking the experimental jab back their jobs, revealing the jfk, mlk files, trying to reveal the Epstein files, improving efficiency in governments spending of hard earned taxpayer dollars, ending wars etc. sadly trumps personality has gotten in the way of some of those, but so far, so good. I’m sick of people ignoring all the clear good he has done and just screaming ‘nazi’ and ‘hitler’ which is an insult to anybody aware of history. Those words involve pure evil. Don’t use them in vain. If trump starts sending people to gas Chambers and murdering races he didn’t like, I’ll be there with you screaming ‘nazi Hitler’ at the top of my lungs. That’s not reality though.

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          49 minutes ago

          Wow, a real one in the wild. It’s incredible to see how twisted your perception of reality is.

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          If trump starts sending people to gas Chambers and murdering races he didn’t like, I’ll be there with you screaming ‘nazi Hitler’ at the top of my lungs

          When I call Trump and Musk Nazis, I’m not talking about concentration camps or genocide as with 1940 Nazis either. I’m referring to 1933 Nazis which were using demonization of others, attacking independent media, and The Big Lie to consolidate power. These are what made the Holocaust possible.

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          2 hours ago

          Can women be in men’s sports?

          What about the veterans who lost their government job?

          What efficiency has been created?

          What if he starts concentration camps, is that enough to compare Trump to Hitler? Or does it have to specifically be death camps? What if people in those concentrations camps just disappeared and nobody cound find them, would that count?

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            3 hours ago

            Explain. What is bad about less corruption, more freedom of speech, less waste of taxpayer dollars, less wars, fair sports, less catering to the mentally ill, instead of yes manning them, actually offering them therapy, less racism, sexism etc, less dei. More catering to the 99.999% of the population.

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              37 minutes ago

              Nothing is bad about that, IF that was what was actually happening. Unfortunately, it very much is not.

              I don’t have the time to go on explaining why upping taxes for everyone making under $500k isn’t catering to 99.999% of the population. Or how blowing up USAID and surprise Pikachu facing when farmers can’t sell their crops since they sold a lot to USAID (not to mention all the soft power USAID gets us and how useful it is to so many people here and abroad). Restricting access to news agencies is not “more freedom of speech” but rather suppression of it.

              Idk you know there is a bunch more I could say but the reality is not at all what you’re painting with your comments.

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          2 hours ago

          Please name/link the wars that ended during his administrations. Why can’t the sports leagues decide who participates via their own rules?

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            I’ll give him Afghanistan as he organized the withdrawal… but we saw how big a fuckup that was, so bravo for ending that war after 20 years, but proves he has no idea what he’s doing.