I’m sorry. The US is total bullshit now. It’s embarrassing.
this was so embarrassing, disgusting, disrespectful, disappointing. they clearly just wanted to scold him publicly
What they wanted was to do was to provoke him to blow up at them in order to manufacture an excuse to claim that he was the one who refused peace. They failed, but they’re gonna claim that’s what happened anyway.
I honestly feel really badly for her.
this is the correct reaction to something so cringe, that is Trump basically being the intellectual equivalent of a high school bully.
Don’t give him too much credit.
*Fourth-grade bully.
The EU countries need to pivot to a war time economy right fucking NOW after that display. Stop dragging your fucking feet because war is coming.
Are Europeans on board though? AfD and such are gaining ground.
Just saying, I think the EU needs to worry about its own house, too.
Oh for fucks sake, AfD is 20% of the vote in Germany, Scholz (SPD) lost in part for not supporting Ukraine enough.
Ukraine has overwhelming support in Europe, and for Christ sake they do too in USA, even Republicans favor supporting Ukraine.
It’s just their idiotic undemocratic 2 party system in USA that made Trump win, and give him almost absolute unchecked power.AfD has no chance to get to power that’s anywhere near like what Trump has. A majority will clearly be created around them.
The only parliamentary problem is that AfD makes it so neither left or right have a majority, which will probably force cooperation between left and right. But both sides support Ukraine.even Republicans favor supporting Ukraine
Not anymore:
https://news.gallup.com/file/poll/657128/250224CountryRatings.pdf
Views on Ukraine are far less favorable for Republicans than Democrats already, views of Russia more positive among Republicans. And I promise you, that difference is getting more dramatic soon. Other articles note this is a dramatic shift from last year.
I hope you are right, but propaganda is powerful, and I suspect the same kind of populism could absolutely take off in the EU.
Ukraine: Total favorable 63% Total unfavorable 31
How does that support your claim “Not anymore”?
Every Republican parrots Trump. At this point, that’s what makes them Republican. They will be in lock-step once Trump’s betrayal of Ukraine filters down to their low-information bubble.
Because there’s a drastic disparity between Republicans/Democrats, and (not illustrated in this pdf alone), the level of support among Republics dropped massively within a year.
Almost 70% of the EU is on board with helping Ukraine. Just like every Nationalist movements, it’s always around 30% of assholes who want to destroy everything because they are morons.
Yeah, well, US support was astronomical and bipartisan. We weren’t exactly fond of Russia. And now a good chunk of the country is nodding their heads when Zelensky is called a “comedian clown” and assert the war is Ukraine’s fault.
I’m just saying, social media and propaganda is powerful, and the EU has not learned from US (or Russia) if they are taking Ukraine support for granted, especially if things escalate.
Not disputing that. EU leaders need to get their heads out of their asses fast and ban Twitter, regulate the fuck out of Meta, and stop thinking like it’s 2010 or some shit. War is coming unless they stop Russia in Ukraine.
This ^
If they don’t, Russia is going to gleefully send the EU down the path of the United States and make it politically dysfunctional, and its states aren’t so legally bound to stay whole like the US. Putin may or may not declare war, but if he isn’t beaten back and humiliated, the EU is over.
That’s precisely what was said in the comment you replied to.
AFD is literally supported in massive influence campaigns by Russia.
Clearly the european people are mad at the status quo. We can do both, ie. improve quality of life through higher spending and also spend more on defence and Ukraine aid.
This is achievable if we tax the rich and companies fairly. Of course every single major political party is against this as they are all in the pockets of the upper class and corporations to varying degrees.
This is achievable if we tax the rich and companies fairly. Of course every single major political party is against this as they are all in the pockets of the upper class and corporations to varying degrees.
Sorry, but this is a fantasy.
The mega rich should be taxed, but war is expensive and hard, and that alone isn’t enough. Europeans are going to have to want to resist Russia with money out of their pockets/a little hardship, otherwise they are going to be pissed when taxes go up. Then they run to AfD and such, like they already are.
Or debt could balloon, I guess, but fortunately the EU is smart enough to be wary of this (unlike the US).
I dunno how to give Europeans existential reasons to support Ukraine, but clamping down on Twitter/Facebook is definitely a start.
How about some kind of war bond? I was thinking about this earlier.
EU has already recently agreed on that, using the model from the Covid pandemic.
EU is actually moving faster now, and everybody apart from Hungary and Slovakia are in agreement, and I’m pretty sure everybody have agreed that Hungary and Slovakia will not be allowed to slow Europe down. And AFAIK they weren’t invited to the meetings with Macron in Paris last week.That’s a great idea.
Honestly it would be amazing if the US had the same thing.
Allies = Europe and China Axis = Russia and USA
Lol at thinking China isn’t fully with Russia
Until this situation, I would have been with you, but I think China might have realized that if they play their cards right there’s a world where they just control Russia some day. If things get especially rough, I think China might play neutral.
That might be what they end up doing but it’s hiding what they really wanna do. They want Taiwan and all SE Asia in the short term and much more in the long so if they play nice w Europe it’s still a show
They’re fierce competitors.
I don’t think it is but it also isn’t, Knawineanjellybean?
Good on Zelensky not sitting there and taking that horseshit.
Fucking mortifying, honestly. It’s insane that this is actually happening. We’re interacting with a (former?) ally as if we were trying to run a mafia shakedown (and that’s kinda exactly what the admin is trying to pull)
(former?)
Really? You still need a question mark there?
If the fact that Trump is Putin’s ally wasn’t absolutely crystal clear before, it sure as fuck is now!
First Macron, then Starmer, and now Zelensky.
Listening to some of the Trump and Zelensky interaction. Trump and Vance are just shameless.
Sorry US-ians, wishing bad things for the US kind of. You guys have to get your house in order! A Presidential monarchy is not great. Even taking Trump and Vance at face value, the value of US agreements is purely at the whim of the current President. In under 4 years, it could all change. The are speaking only for themselves.
