• sum_yung_gai@lemm.ee
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    Prob gonna get downvoted but lemmy is so negative. I feel like what gets the most up votes is negativity with no nuance. Like this post is comparing working endlessly on a literally endless grueling task that has no benefit to a job which gives us money to do the things we want to do in life.

    Maybe it’s on me for not curating my feed more but the negativity on lemmy is getting old. Does anyone else notice this trend of negativity?

    Edit: I suppose I’m being negative about negativity. Am I a hypocrite? Lol

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      Just pretend everything is fine until you gaslight yourself into being ok. Depression? Never heard of it!

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      Came here to say I wish everyone gets a very specific deep cut joke like this every day. I got to find the humor otherwise I would ask what’s the point of living.

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    The fixation on “completing” things isn’t healthy imo. An attitude like that will rob you of the ability to find joy. I have to eat every day, sleep every night, and do laundry on a weekly basis. None of these things will ever be “done” for as long as I’m alive. Being “complete” is being dead.

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      This is my approach to hobbies. I spent two years kinda learning Spanish n Duolingo and had a 2 year streak, but then I just stopped and wasn’t mad cause the goal wasn’t to learn Spanish it was just something I was interested in at the time and was fun.

      I’m all about journeys and doing what is fun at the time but I’m not forcing myself to finish things if I don’t want to. Maybe I’m broken but I have lots of fun and never get bored.

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      That’s a bit hyperbolic. You can complete a task, a project, a goal. Maybe your task is to do this weeks laundry. Maybe your goal is to build a habit around finishing your laundry. Or your project is to assess your wardrobe and donate your old clothes.

      All completable things that should give your brain dopamine and make you feel good about yourself, it’s natural and okay to find joy from those things!

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    If there’s one thing video games have taught me it’s that once you’ve completed everything it stops being fun

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      Yeah but videogames can actually be fun for a while. I suspect work would be far more bearable if everything could be completed. I would be much happier if I didn’t need a job to survive or have a decent standard of living.

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    you can retire three months before your expected lifespan, so it’s all worth it, really

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      You make some pots for the neighbors, think your work is done, then suddenly it’s “Oh no Arkadios we dropped one of our urns and also we want to store extra grain for the cold season” and here I am making MORE FUCKING URNS.

      What I wouldn’t give to live in the old days before people had to learn a trade to get by!

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      No, but people were much less alienated from their labour, so it likely didn’t feel nearly as soul-crushing as it does today

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        Are you sure of that?

        For me 9-5 sitting in an office is way better than 7-7 on the sun taking care of crops, inside a mine, or as some rich guy servant.

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      “The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man’s heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.”

      The man is a lunatic. Prolonged struggle and strife without at least some visible progress is abject torture.

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        The existentialists didn’t agree on much, but they all saw absurdity in existence. Is pushing a rock up a hill any more or less absurd than a 9-5 paper pushing job?

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          I think the argument is that the 9-5 is torturous by a particularly direct comparison to sysiphus. Granted, most work is easier than pushing a boulder, but just as life stealing.

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        all philosophy will sound bad if you imagine the worst possible case scenario it could apply to

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          all philosophy will sound bad if you imagine the worst possible case scenario it could apply to

          all philosophy will sound bad profitable if you imagine the worst possible case scenario it could apply to

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    Wait, what is this about “modern people not seeing what’s so horrifying” about Sisyphus’ punishment? I’ve never heard of anyone who seemed to believe that.

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      This is a classic Internet example of making up a hypothetical argument so you can make a point, despite the hypothetical argument being completely untrue and irrelevant.

      Happens all the time these days.

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    Do y’all seriously not get any sort of pride out of the work you do? Feelings of accomplishment when you do a good job on something? Recognition from your peers?

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      Sure, it feels kinda nice but then gestures broadly at everything, that momentary “nice” feeling isn’t going to get me out of debt, isn’t a guarantee that I won’t be fired and replaced the moment I am too old or sick to work, isn’t going to get me out of my current “On a diet for financial reasons” financial situation.

      It is like trying to cure depression with a breath mint. Plus, the usual “Company reports growth and record profits but certainly cannot afford to give raises to you, bottom feeders, keep making profits for us who sit at the top and be thankful you even get a chance to do so”, sure sucks all the joy out of everything.

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      I love doing a good job and completing a project. Those moments are wonderful and i cherish them deeply but they’re fleeting. The obligation to have and maintain a career for survival is the issue. I like the work i do, i loath that i have to do it.

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      The trick is finding the joy, for lack of a better word, in those things while knowing full well they don’t matter. Do it just to do it for you, and hopefully for good reason.

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    Do you live in a house? Somebody spent a lot of effort to build it, and expecting it for free would be silly, and its the same with many other things.

    The thing that youre mad about is the fact living standards are falling, because your central bank can print unlimited sums of money out of nothing, as interest rates are set artificially low to monetize debt; which encourages debt accumulation via the cantillon effect, which creates serfdom via a gatekeeping system on an inelastic good.

    The closer to the gold standard you were born the cheaper things like your house was, and the less debt was required as debt was actually a liability instead of an asset, because it is inevitably eroded by future money printing.