• Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    12 hours ago

    What is interesting but disappointing here is that Conservatives lead with under 35s. I thought that Conservatism here would die off with the boomers but clearly not.

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      Young men are very conservative right now.

      There’s a lot of right wing content like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate that is popular in that age group. YouTube is a massive rabbit hole for that stuff.

      It’s also not easy for them to get jobs and housing is unaffordable to them. There’s a strong anti “woke” sentiment that men are getting left behind by feminism and that masculinity is being punished in society.

      I don’t think we can just brush it off as simply toxic masculinity, there’s truth to men’s issues that need to be addressed: men are pursuing post secondary education less than ever, they don’t believe they can get ahead, male suicide is higher, male loneliness is higher, there aren’t enough clear role models of men in jobs like teaching, the traditional archetype of men as providers is becoming unattainable as cost of living increases faster than wages.

      We can’t treat this the way Tate and co do with their greedy take everything you can hostile approach, but Pollievre and the right wing speak directly to their anger and acknowledge them in a way nobody else is.

      Anyway, that’s my rant. The men’s liberation community has some good discussions (don’t know how to link it on Mlem).

      I’m an egalitarian/humanist and that includes supporting feminism. There’s room to help everyone.

      https://lemmy.ca/c/mensliberation

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        I understand that conservative movements have done an effective job at aligning our culture’s concept of masculinity with conservative values.

        What I don’t understand is that the stat is “under 35’s”, not “males under 35”. One would think that for every man that feels progressive politics is for triggerable-purple-haired-whales and no-good-lazy-soyboys, there would be more than one woman that feels conservative politics is for abusive-crypto-fascist-dicks and no-good-vacuous-pickmes.

        Men are only half the population, so what’s drawing women to conservative politics?

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        YouTube is a massive rabbit hole for that stuff.

        The pipeline is real.

        I think it’s so effective in part because nobody else seems to be acknowledging the concerns of this demographic. When young men wonder why life sucks, the first ones to hear them and provide an answer - any answer - win their votes.

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      That was one of the topics in the Liberal leadership debate last night. What are their plans to win back those voters? Personally, I think it’s a mixture of the high cost of living and people’s ignorance that leads them to believing conservatism will fix those problems. Conservatives seem to be more willing to lie/spread disinformation that feeds into that ignorance.

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        Do people believe conservatism will fix those problems? Or are people feeling scared and angry, and the Cons fo a good job of validating those feelings?

        Because the attitude I’m seeing is far more “fuck the guys in charge” than it is “the right will fix things”. It seems way more about picking a team, and feeling a sense of accomplishment and catharsis for getting a win by proxy, and getting to say “fuck you” to someone, than it does about believing things will get better.

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      Gen Z helped Trump during the last US election too

      C’mon Canada I believe in y’all

  • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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    15 hours ago

    Maybe Doug Ford activated the Ontario phenomenon of electing liberals federally when the conservatives win power provincially.