Sure they adjusted their rhetoric under the assumption that they can siphon off AfD voters. There’s a huge difference between “we’ll try and win votes with this” and an actual shift in the party, though. The Greens agreeing to intervene in Yugoslavia was a shift, and you saw the internal struggle. The Greens being hawkish about Ukraine, wanting more money for the military etc was not a shift, to quote I think Hofreiter “We didn’t change, the circumstances did”. It’s important to tell those things apart and when it comes to the CDU, we’re talking about the latter kind of “shift”.
And they’re also smart enough to look at election results and must, by now, have finally realised that “the CDU is too left wing” is not why the AfD surged. And they also know that over 80% of their voters consider a coalition with the AfD intolerable.
So, trying to push through Merz’ 5-Points-Plan with the help of AfD is just an adjustment of rhetorics? Electing Populists as their leaders and speakers?
You’re defense of the CDU is bonkers, and I understand your arguments less and less.
The Greens being hawkish about Ukraine, wanting more money for the military etc was not a shift, to quote I think Hofreiter “We didn’t change, the circumstances did”.
You know what did shift without the circumstances shifting? The Greens’ attitude towards deportations.
Honestly, I don’t know how you cannot see the developments in the public discourse over the last couple of years as a shift to the right, from media landscape through parties. Are you blind? Or do you just not understand how that shit works and how a change in rhetorics and policies is carried by the party’s base when that base elects their leaders and speakers.
I’m not defending the CDU, I’m explaining it. That you cannot spot that difference leads me to believe that talking to you is completely pointless because you have literally zero expertise in analysing politics.
You know what did shift without the circumstances shifting? The Greens’ attitude towards deportations.
No. The Greens never said “if law and courts say someone’s gotta go then they can stay”, and they’re not saying anything different now, either.
public discourse
Is not what’s actually shifting things. You’re looking at surface waves like fucking Lanz talks while missing the underlying currents.
Sure they adjusted their rhetoric under the assumption that they can siphon off AfD voters. There’s a huge difference between “we’ll try and win votes with this” and an actual shift in the party, though. The Greens agreeing to intervene in Yugoslavia was a shift, and you saw the internal struggle. The Greens being hawkish about Ukraine, wanting more money for the military etc was not a shift, to quote I think Hofreiter “We didn’t change, the circumstances did”. It’s important to tell those things apart and when it comes to the CDU, we’re talking about the latter kind of “shift”.
And they’re also smart enough to look at election results and must, by now, have finally realised that “the CDU is too left wing” is not why the AfD surged. And they also know that over 80% of their voters consider a coalition with the AfD intolerable.
So, trying to push through Merz’ 5-Points-Plan with the help of AfD is just an adjustment of rhetorics? Electing Populists as their leaders and speakers?
You’re defense of the CDU is bonkers, and I understand your arguments less and less.
You know what did shift without the circumstances shifting? The Greens’ attitude towards deportations.
Honestly, I don’t know how you cannot see the developments in the public discourse over the last couple of years as a shift to the right, from media landscape through parties. Are you blind? Or do you just not understand how that shit works and how a change in rhetorics and policies is carried by the party’s base when that base elects their leaders and speakers.
I’m not defending the CDU, I’m explaining it. That you cannot spot that difference leads me to believe that talking to you is completely pointless because you have literally zero expertise in analysing politics.
No. The Greens never said “if law and courts say someone’s gotta go then they can stay”, and they’re not saying anything different now, either.
Is not what’s actually shifting things. You’re looking at surface waves like fucking Lanz talks while missing the underlying currents.
Ahaha, okay.
Sure.
I have no need or desire to be insulted.
Have a nice day.