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  • essteeyou@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Realistically how is a man going to design a good sex robot for a woman? Let a woman do that, they’ll get what they want.

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    13 hours ago

    I guess a vibrator isn’t a type of sex robot?

    Just saying that these sort of toys were way more normalized for women long before they were for men.

    A man with a fleshlight was a gross weirdo, a woman with a vibrator is a strong independent woman taking control of her sexuality and not settling for the weakness of flesh in men.

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      This was my thought. Its the same way all our technology has grown. Honestly I think brain interfaces could eclipse robots like this before they are that great. As scary as that is.

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      Colloquially, the word “robot” always implies a certain amount of anthropomorphism. So no, I don’t think a vibrator would count, as basically no vibrators on the market try to look human-like.

      But that definitely is a weird difference between male and female sexuality - the sex toys women buy most are the very effective and utilitarian ones: Vibrator wands, Rabbits, Air pulse Vibrators etc.

      While the most popular tools for men tend to focus on “realism”(?): Fleshlights, Sex Dolls, things like VR and POV porn. And I guess sex robots would fall into that category too in the future.

      I can absolutely see the weirdness-factor of someone who is desperately trying to emulate a partner rather than just accept masturbation as a solo activity and optimize it from there 😬

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        A robot doesn’t need to be anthropomorphic, an assembly line robot is still a robot. It does however need to be able to perform some actions autonomously, for which a vibrator hardly qualifies.

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          It does however need to be able to perform some actions autonomously, for which a vibrator hardly qualifies.

          Fuck Machine has entered the chat

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          An assembly line robot (like welding or material handling, I’ve worked with ABB, Fanuc, Motoman, Panasonic) are still called robot “arms” with the end portion often called the “wrist” so there is a degree of anthropomorphizing even if it’s not the whole body. And they do resemble an arm, however with 6 axis motion the motion is more like from your hips to your wrist than shoulder to wrist.

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        Overpriced pornstar-branded fleshlights aren’t the only masturbators in town and it’s not like there’s no life-like dildos either. The long and short of it is that the mechanics of a lubed hole are superior to that of a hand and you’re not looking at the entry point all the time so noone actually cares what they look like.

        Yes, the branded stuff does exist, humans, male female, doesn’t matter, enter parasocial relationships news at 11. Can you imagine how well Justin Bieber dildos would sell.

      • Dr. Bob@lemmy.ca
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        Dildos have been around a lot longer than that. https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-the-dildo

        My understanding is that “hysteria” legitimized the use of the vibrator (not unlike how “weight loss” was used in the 1980s to prescribe fentanyl), but they were around before that, and probably would have found another way of entering the mainstream.

  • 🅃🅾🅆🅴🄻🅸🄴@lemm.ee
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    11 hours ago

    Sex with a hella sexy robot? Nice.

    Using a hella sexy robot to fill the emptiness of no intimacy or authentic mutual connection? Not nice.

    For some reason sex with a robot doesn’t feel gross to me — until they start using it to fill a hole (hehe)

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      What about for people who struggle to have emotional intimacy and sexual intimacy throughout their lives because of medical issues or mental health issues?

      My ex has a brother who is now pushing 40 and has never even held a woman’s hand. He has severe mental disabilities and will never live life on his own without some kind of caretaker. We know he looked at porn, partially because he refused to ever let people fix up his computer, usually out of fear of people seeing his porn.

      Does he not deserve emotional and sexual intimacy? There is a high likelihood he will never have it otherwise.

      until they start using it to fill a hole

      What about, like in the situation I just described, when that hole will otherwise go a lifetime of being unfulfilled? Is that fair to them for being born a way they didn’t choose?

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        Different filler for different holes.

        A sex bot is fine if you keep expectations in check. For the rest, friendship can go a long way. Help them find a hobby they can share with others (regardless of gender) and keep that platonic. That gives them social connection, and the sex bot gives physical release.

        It’s not as good as a complete relationship, but at least there’s less risk of the sex bot creating more problems by trying to have it do human things.

        • Jarix@lemmy.world
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          That’s exactly the wrong take.

          Provide something that isn’t what they need in order to fill a need they have.

          That’s like giving someone drugs instead to masque symptoms of working in the problem and addressing it.

          But that’s not right either. If providing sexual encounters was real and done appropriately then there this situation might still exists. If it’s the physical space and intimacy that are triggering, then a robot is a very good choice if it provides some of the missing human experiences that missing out on when desired make for more broken people

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            What they need is emotional intimacy, but they can’t get that because of crippling anxiety. You’re not going to get emotional intimacy from a robot, and if you try, you run the very real risk of really adverse effects, like this or this.

            That’s why I suggested separating concerns. Keep the bot physical, and encourage real personal relationships in a low risk environment. There’s always a chance a personal relationship develops into something more, whereas there’s a lot of risk expecting a bot to fill that gap.

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    In these sexual relationships, availability and consent will always be taken for granted, something that’s never taken for granted in a sexual relationship with another human being.

    People could get used to interacting in a way in which the other person isn’t taken into account as much, meaning that sexual partners could be instrumentalized for the purpose of having sex. That is to say the ‘human-humanoid’ interaction could be transferred to the relationship between two human beings.

    Unfortunately, however, these advances aren’t being accompanied by deep reflections about the consequences that sex with robots can have.

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      It’s a favorite campy classic of mine. I love bad movies.

      I also think it’s one of those films with a great idea but terrible execution that could be remade.

      I want to see a remake where Cherry 2000 actually has agency and consciousness and at the end of the film the two women run away together leaving the creepy guy behind.

      I always thought a remake could have Chris Elliott as the creepy guy and he would kill it in such a role.

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        I’m surprised i haven’t seen anyone talk about another movie, AI

        One of the main characters is Gigolo Joe played by judge law

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          Probably because it wasn’t super well received by audiences and kind of got forgotten by a lot of folks.

          It only holds a 64% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. It’s definitely not hated but it’s not a deeply well liked film.

          I certainly had forgotten about Jude Law as Gigolo Joe.

          • Jarix@lemmy.world
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            It wasn’t well received because of the changes Spielberg finishing it had on the project.

            There’s like 3 or 4 points where the movie should never ended but Spielberg doesn’t do those types of movies

  • KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I thought onlyfans was the cheap and easy desire “fast-food”-like product for women. Or instagram or whatever social media gives people the impression of being center stage. Not robots.