The more people who can be exposed to the scientific method to question their beliefs the better. You don’t know other people like you think you do and the vast majority have the capacity to listen and learn.

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Very Lemmy to complain about how Reddit Lemmy is.

If it doesn’t happen with astrology, it’ll happen with something else. This is a people problem.

Yes. Which is why it is important to spread real information so people don’t end up making an avoidable mistake.

You donj’t have to disprove astrology to know it’s bullshit.

But I can, and I did. Also, yes you do.

In Science you work to disprove your own hypothesis, and the only reason you “know” Astrology is bunk today is because of experiments like these done by people much smarter.

You are free to search “Astrology ruined my life” and comb through the information yourself and then come back to me if you need examples.

This is such a Taurus thing to say.

Astrology used as a predictive engine obviously doesn’t work. Anyone using it that way is using it improperly IMO. It’s more like procedurally generated advice. For example, mine says there’s a conflict between old and new, and to embrace change while drawing on past lessons. Super vague, can apply to anyone. But it resonates and gives me something to focus on. That’s really all there is to it. Trying to “prove” it doesn’t work is like trying to “prove” wrestling is fake. That’s not the point, man.

It is advertised as such, so I hope you can forgive those using it improperly after being mislead by those pushing the practice.

It is at best a placebo and at worst a life destroying belief. Self reflection and keeping long term journals is far better for what you use Astrology for than Astrology.

What a waste of time.

Experimenting with the world around you is never a waste of time. Just because you believe you know something to be true, doesn’t mean others don’t require further evidence to sway their beliefs.

Inherent in this experiment is writing down the events of your life and reflecting on them, which even if you know Astrology is meaningless, is a good exercise to grow as a human.

Why should you try to dispute astrology? People who believe in it doesn’t listen to reasons anyway. And for the others, well, they don’t need a demonstration of what they already know.

Why should you come here to dispute my simple experiment? People who find it interesting or helpful will do it or interact positively, and for the others like yourself, don’t need to waste their time commenting about how much of a waste of time this is.

Also, asastrology really works*

*) in fulfilling people beliefs, wasting their time and sometimes money.

Unfortunately the people who believe in Astrology don’t listen to this rhetoric because it lacks any empathy or understanding of what it is like to be a human and pretends like the speaker holds or has held no unreasonable beliefs.

How can Science be proven wrong and still work? That is not at all how Science works.

Off the top of my head string theory is a good example of numerous competing hypothesis that seem plausible given the data.

why do we have so many terms?

The reason I see behind this is hyper individualism. Every one needs to feel special and unique in a group supposed to act in solidarity. I disagree with the amount of terms, especially the slur included, because the community can be summed up with H (homosexual) and B (Bisexual). Everything else has created more infighting within the wider community, and made it feel like a dumping ground for anyone who isn’t “cishet” for the sake of inclusion.

Is using a label not somewhat alienating?

I find this to be true, mainly when your label prevents you from interacting with people of the “wrong” label. Which isn’t exclusive to the Gay community, and found anywhere people group up.

Why do pronouns have to depend on gender?

The entire purpose of pronouns is to avoid the repetition of a name.

“Sally said that Sally wanted to go to Sally’s house to get Sally’s medicine.”

“Sally said that she wanted to go to her house to get her medicine.”

They are dependent on the sex of the subject historically, leading to why they now depend on “gender” in language as we have been moving further from a binary understanding of sex.

Should this not just be something personal?

I think it is something that should be personal. No one needs to know the specifics of my sexual attractions excluding those I wish to be sexual with.

If a person tells me their gender, how should I react/respond to it?

I would say simply thank them for being open with you and do your best to use them. If all else fails people have a name and you can default to that to avoid misgendering someone and hurting them.

why do some groups use different acronyms?

Because there has never been a time where the “Gay community” was a unified community, and different groups with different acronyms tend to heavily disagree on what should be added or omitted. It goes back to the first point of why their are so many labels: Everyone wants to feel like an individual even in cases where they are a part of a group.

What happens when “science” backs up two opposing ideas with sufficient evidence and logic to make either seem plausible?

Tell you what, you define right and left, I will define the center of it if that will help you wrap your brain around it. Otherwise I have no idea what it is you are trying to accomplish other than starting a zero sum fight so unless you get it together I’m out.

I mean… has there ever been a movie about an alien that goes through proper migration paperwork.

MIB

Whatever you say bud. Go argue with someone who disagrees with you.

consider my flat-earthers example: the trustworthiness of the source(s) is at least as important. If I told you my pseudo is ‘Libb’ you can bet that it is indeed so, even if that just me saying it. And that would remain true if, out of nowhere, 100s of people started telling you my pseudo was in reality ‘Mickey’ or ‘Gertrude’. I would still be Libb. Conclusion? All by myself, against that hypotheticla large crowd, I’m still a more reliable source of info concerning my identity.

The trustworthiness is absolutely important, and just as important to me, as quantity. The point I was making is it seems that a lot of people in the thread have been underrating the importance of quantity and over rating the importance of source quality. Even the most reputable sources can be wrong, especially in frontier sciences, which leads to a lot of retractions and rewrites.

Using your example, you could be lying.

No, and I’m almost wishing to see it. Almost.

It isn’t worth hunting down, but worth a watch if you stumble across it. haha

I must admit the rise of flat earth theory came as a shock to me. I always have had a sweet spot for absurd theories but I could not imagine people taking those seriously. But maybe that’s just me being manipulated/lobotomized by the government? As a matter of fact, I’m also a pro-vax and that may explain a lot :p

It came as a shock to me as well. I enjoy reading about the absurd ideas people have in their heads, and I get why people believe in them. It makes sense to them, and they rely on nothing but personal observation and limited knowledge to form beliefs. They were failed as children in my opinion.

I too got my microchips and am possibly being manipulated by the government. Which one? Who knows. Monies on the US. lol

Whatever you say bud. Try learning to read before you try to write in the future because the opening of my first comment to you is “This is so obvious I do not understand why anyone doubts it.” and continued to elaborate on the reason behind why I agree.

The fact that you cannot see that demonstrates your absolute lack of good faith here and no further need for me to continue with you.

Whatever you say bud. Maybe try not fighting people who opened with “I agree with you” and then elaborated their own points without you ever once elaborating on yours if you want to speak with adults.

One quality study is enough to convince you of something, even if it has never been reproduced or reviewed?

This is so obvious I do not understand why anyone doubts it.

In the lead up to the attacks:

• Iran was about to get into Nuclear talks again.

• Countries were about to come together to work on a road map to a two state solution, which the US is also threatening countries against attending.

-Political good will was almost dried up for the ongoing Genocide, and so Israel needed to attack a country everyone agrees is okay to attack. This increases support, and covers up aforementioned genocide.

This happens every time a two state solution becomes a possible reality, or starts being discussed.