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  • Snot Flickerman
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    I guess a vibrator isn’t a type of sex robot?

    Just saying that these sort of toys were way more normalized for women long before they were for men.

    A man with a fleshlight was a gross weirdo, a woman with a vibrator is a strong independent woman taking control of her sexuality and not settling for the weakness of flesh in men.

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      Colloquially, the word “robot” always implies a certain amount of anthropomorphism. So no, I don’t think a vibrator would count, as basically no vibrators on the market try to look human-like.

      But that definitely is a weird difference between male and female sexuality - the sex toys women buy most are the very effective and utilitarian ones: Vibrator wands, Rabbits, Air pulse Vibrators etc.

      While the most popular tools for men tend to focus on “realism”(?): Fleshlights, Sex Dolls, things like VR and POV porn. And I guess sex robots would fall into that category too in the future.

      I can absolutely see the weirdness-factor of someone who is desperately trying to emulate a partner rather than just accept masturbation as a solo activity and optimize it from there 😬

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        A robot doesn’t need to be anthropomorphic, an assembly line robot is still a robot. It does however need to be able to perform some actions autonomously, for which a vibrator hardly qualifies.

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          It does however need to be able to perform some actions autonomously, for which a vibrator hardly qualifies.

          Fuck Machine has entered the chat

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          An assembly line robot (like welding or material handling, I’ve worked with ABB, Fanuc, Motoman, Panasonic) are still called robot “arms” with the end portion often called the “wrist” so there is a degree of anthropomorphizing even if it’s not the whole body. And they do resemble an arm, however with 6 axis motion the motion is more like from your hips to your wrist than shoulder to wrist.

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            We call them the same for animals. Those are words we have for joints and appendages. They have nothing to do with being human. These robots have joints and appendages, so we use those names. We also call connections in pipes joints, not because they resemble humans but because the definition of the word includes them.

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            Iirc, traffic lights are called robots in some African English dialects. Although it’s more like one of those regional peculiarities.

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        Overpriced pornstar-branded fleshlights aren’t the only masturbators in town and it’s not like there’s no life-like dildos either. The long and short of it is that the mechanics of a lubed hole are superior to that of a hand and you’re not looking at the entry point all the time so noone actually cares what they look like.

        Yes, the branded stuff does exist, humans, male female, doesn’t matter, enter parasocial relationships news at 11. Can you imagine how well Justin Bieber dildos would sell.

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        https://duckduckgo.com/?q=robot+vacuum&t=fpas&iax=images&ia=images

        Ah yes, the extremely humanlike robots. 😂

        I think one difference is that men often have no support structures at all, and certainly not with levels of physical or emotional connection. They aren’t just craving sex, they are craving human intimacy and connection where it is very normalized in the west among women to have emotional and physical platonic intimacy among friend support groups.

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      This was my thought. Its the same way all our technology has grown. Honestly I think brain interfaces could eclipse robots like this before they are that great. As scary as that is.

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        Dildos have been around a lot longer than that. https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-the-dildo

        My understanding is that “hysteria” legitimized the use of the vibrator (not unlike how “weight loss” was used in the 1980s to prescribe fentanyl), but they were around before that, and probably would have found another way of entering the mainstream.

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    I want to know what the state of the art AI sex robot is right now. Because they have those realistic-ish sex dolls, and some pretty advanced LLMs that can chat conversationally, and longer term memory is starting to get into the LLM repertoire so your bot can remember things about you and reference them later.

    I feel like we’re 3-5 years away from a high end AI prostitute startup becoming huge.

    • L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works
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      eye got chu fam

      My favorite part, is that ALL of the current AI companion products use subscriptions to LLM services instead of having built in models.

      Which means ifwhen the company stops paying their bill, or if the AI company goes under, your waifus goes kaput. Or more likely just restructuring because of a buyout. It’s already happened with a few companies -> big tech buys out the company then stops supporting the product line, that then customers get mad. IIRC, coincidentally HP is being sue for doing just that with some recent buyout right now lmao.

      The ante seems to get upped each time, and there exists at least one unstable lonely maniac that will not consider legal consequences to their actions when they are suddenly rugpulled out of their unhealthy addictive relationship, so there’s still room for the bubble to burst in an even more epic crash.

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      It pains me to think that there soon may be a whole new employment field built around the demand for workers trained to muck out robo-vajayjay.

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      “natural” movement and the Uncanny Valley might be the next biggest hurdle actually.

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    Maybe some men like the idea, but I bet most of them would soon find the experience less fulfilling than they had hoped.

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    Realistically how is a man going to design a good sex robot for a woman? Let a woman do that, they’ll get what they want.

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    I dunno, everyone was cool with the love story of Wanda & The Vision from the MCU. I guess fucking robots is not ok, but becoming emotionally attached to one is?

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      I don’t think that’s a linear logic. We all know Vision is a robot. But we also know it’s a story about a robot that is played by a man. We are watching for the spectacle, not because we believed the story to be real.

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        Vision was also a robot with human-type consciousness and intelligence. We can, at least, nudge that into “funny-looking human” through suspension of disbelief.

        Our level of robots is nowhere near that.

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          Exactly. The comic strip questionable content contains artificial intelligences with quirks, foibles, personalities, and a social understanding that they’re people too. In it people and ais have relationships and even marry. It’s no weirder than a human in a fantasy setting falling for an elf.

          In the real world these are fancy chatbots owned run by corporations. Anyways here’s a video about people falling in love with them, it’s more sad than anything

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      The love story in the movie “Her” is even more impressive. It’s impressive because it’s not even a robot, it’s just an AI voice and yet the love story is still compelling. And it also asks bigger questions, sure there’s the question of could a person fall in love with a machine, and is that ok? But it goes further to ask, if the machine is actually intelligent, what does the machine see in the humans? Do the machines actually still need the humans at all?

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      I’ve never seen the Wanda and Vision show, but I always imagine it being Sonny from the I Robot movie with Will Smith, and Wanda Sykes.

  • 🅃🅾🅆🅴🄻🅸🄴@lemm.ee
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    Sex with a hella sexy robot? Nice.

    Using a hella sexy robot to fill the emptiness of no intimacy or authentic mutual connection? Not nice.

    For some reason sex with a robot doesn’t feel gross to me — until they start using it to fill a hole (hehe)

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      What about for people who struggle to have emotional intimacy and sexual intimacy throughout their lives because of medical issues or mental health issues?

      My ex has a brother who is now pushing 40 and has never even held a woman’s hand. He has severe mental disabilities and will never live life on his own without some kind of caretaker. We know he looked at porn, partially because he refused to ever let people fix up his computer, usually out of fear of people seeing his porn.

      Does he not deserve emotional and sexual intimacy? There is a high likelihood he will never have it otherwise.

      until they start using it to fill a hole

      What about, like in the situation I just described, when that hole will otherwise go a lifetime of being unfulfilled? Is that fair to them for being born a way they didn’t choose?

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        Different filler for different holes.

        A sex bot is fine if you keep expectations in check. For the rest, friendship can go a long way. Help them find a hobby they can share with others (regardless of gender) and keep that platonic. That gives them social connection, and the sex bot gives physical release.

        It’s not as good as a complete relationship, but at least there’s less risk of the sex bot creating more problems by trying to have it do human things.

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          That’s exactly the wrong take.

          Provide something that isn’t what they need in order to fill a need they have.

          That’s like giving someone drugs instead to masque symptoms of working in the problem and addressing it.

          But that’s not right either. If providing sexual encounters was real and done appropriately then there this situation might still exists. If it’s the physical space and intimacy that are triggering, then a robot is a very good choice if it provides some of the missing human experiences that missing out on when desired make for more broken people

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            What they need is emotional intimacy, but they can’t get that because of crippling anxiety. You’re not going to get emotional intimacy from a robot, and if you try, you run the very real risk of really adverse effects, like this or this.

            That’s why I suggested separating concerns. Keep the bot physical, and encourage real personal relationships in a low risk environment. There’s always a chance a personal relationship develops into something more, whereas there’s a lot of risk expecting a bot to fill that gap.

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    Thats easy to solve though. It’ll appeal to women if the sexbot can do household chores. Who wouldn’t want a robot maid?