• Xanza@lemm.ee
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    Reminds me of the ‘gulf of America.’ No, it’s not an egomaniac move. Changing the water nationality changes the tax rate on oil aka gas prices. Trump has historically maintained favor with gas prices.

    You completely lost me.

    1. Trump cannot rename the Gulf of Mexico. It’s not land that the US owns. It’s international waters.
    2. The “nationality” didn’t change. So your little tirade about taxes is not only supreme bullshit, but it’s not even in the same universe as correct.
    3. Trump has historically had higher gas prices than almost any other President.

    The proof is in the pudding;

    President Years in Office Avg. Gasoline Price (USD/gallon) Median Household Income (Approx.) Ratio (Income/Gas Price)
    Joe Biden 2021–Present ~$3.50–$5.00 ~$70,000 ~14,000–20,000
    Donald Trump 2017–2021 ~$2.30–$2.90 ~$65,000 ~22,400–28,300
    Barack Obama 2009–2017 ~$2.00–$3.80 ~$55,000 ~14,500–27,500
    George W. Bush 2001–2009 ~$1.50–$4.00 ~$50,000 ~12,500–33,300
    Bill Clinton 1993–2001 ~$1.00–$1.50 ~$40,000 ~26,700–40,000
    George H. W. Bush 1989–1993 ~$1.00–$1.20 ~$35,000 ~29,200–35,000
    Ronald Reagan 1981–1989 ~$1.20–$1.40 ~$25,000 ~17,900–20,800
    Jimmy Carter 1977–1981 ~$0.65–$1.25 ~$20,000 ~16,000–30,800
    Gerald Ford 1974–1977 ~$0.55–$0.60 ~$15,000 ~25,000–27,300
    Richard Nixon 1969–1974 ~$0.35–$0.55 ~$10,000 ~18,200–28,600

    The price of gasoline means absolute dick at the end of the day. The ratio of median household income to the price of gasoline is what’s important. The closer to 0 = more expensive. These numbers are skewed by 1 year and stop in 2024, unfortunately. So that means that COVID is showing during 2021 of Biden’s Presidency. But if you take Biden out to account for COVID you’ll see that the only other President, during which the price of fuel was extremely expensive, was Bush 2 and that’s because we went to War in Iraq which is reflected in Obama’s term…

    There’s absolutely zero validity to your statement whatsoever.

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      1. Trump named it the golf of America. You can not like it but you can’t deny history.

      2. That’s not even a statement I can respond to but an egotistical blab blab from a place of self ordained authority.

      3. You just showed proof that Trump provided lower gas prices than other presidents.

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        This is why I hate you people. Like truly hate you. Because you’re so incredibly fucking stupid. Trump didn’t even rename the damn thing. Not only does he not have that power, but it’s not an asset owned by the US. But even if we did own it, he still couldn’t do it. What he did was change US official policy to reflect that the Gulf of Mexico should now federally be referred to as the Gulf of America.

        You don’t even understand what it is that he did. It’s tantamount to getting a phone call by your kids Principal saying “hey, I renamed your kid to Samantha” and you being like “well, that’s not legal… why are you so goddamn stupid?” and people being like “LOL THE PRINCIPAL ALREADY RENAMED HER, YOU CAN’T ARGUE WITH REALITY! TEEE HEE!” when in “reality” the only thing the Principal did was update your kids name in the schools computer software because it’s not possible for someone to rename shit that they don’t own…

        That’s not even a statement I can respond to

        Yeah. I figured you couldn’t.

        You just showed proof that Trump provided lower gas prices than other presidents.

        I even specifically took the time to tell you how to read the chart, and it’s blatantly obvious that you not only didn’t read me telling you that higher numbers are better for the ratios, but you don’t understand it, either.

        Intelligence is trying to catch you, but you’re just too damn fast, aren’t you?

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          You’re arguing with someone who almost certainly upholds the “Fractions Imperial length measuring system is far superior to stupid metric! It doesn’t even make sense! Fractions are way more simple!” And wouldn’t ever have bought the ⅓lbs burger because obviously the ¼lbs burger is bigger because number bigger durrhurrrrrrrrr

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          If you hate a random username online, you are experiencing mental health symptoms and may have a warped sense of reality. I don’t think people who refuse to manage their mental health deserve my attention to read their response. You can do better and learn how to communicate better if you want.

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              While your frustration is shared, and understandable, let’s not start throwing death around like it’s some little thing

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                It’s not. I meant it and there’s no use pretending.

                I’ve lived through enough racist bullshit and had some close encounters with neonazis going further back than the first trump presidency. He certainly emboldened them and both the frequency and severity of bullshit increased during his first term. Most of my life has been marked with more privileged people asking me to pipe down because they simply couldn’t connect with, fathom, or were unwilling to consider how much worse the experience in pockets of this country can be for some of us. There are always many different reasons to defend the status quo, including the fear of breaking an illusion of a much more civilized America. Those at the bottom always take the brunt of the consequences of maintaining this illusion.

                Seems that people are barely recognizing the patterns that have been established for many, many years, only because they are now undeniable. Because they have come to a head.

                I don’t care about being held to some higher standard in order to appease overly idealistic sensibilities, when the overton window has pushed us back this far to the brink of civil war through double standards. Neonazis are making demonstrations in minority communities, and we have a set of politicians using nazi playbooks to turn this country fascist in record time, following steps openly outlined by them years prior.

                Sorry, but the intolerance paradox is real. And I won’t live my life a useless saint. Fuck these morons.

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                  Oh wow, thank you for the elaboration! Now that you spelled it out like that, I have to admit I have very similar thoughts, albeit in different circumstances, so I can’t really say I don’t see where you are coming from.

                  In fact, you’ve broadened my horizons, even if just a bit, and I thank you for the perspective.

                  I can’t say I totally understand the circumstances you live under, but I think I understand enough to know some of how that feels. And I’ve expressed the very same thoughts multiple times, even here on lemmy, so that was a little bit hypocritical of me. Sorry